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Punishment System & Permabans

Monstria·10/1/2018, 9:40:43 PM·1 votes·1,389 views

As a player who was recently permabanned, I feel as though this punishment is too harsh. I have recently done a little bit of research about trying to get unbanned (which is obviously extremely rare/difficult). Throughout this learning process, I have read a lot of great ideas from the League community, particularly around permabans and how Riot could address toxicity without using permabans. Check out my list below and please feel free to reply. I am super curious as to what you all think.

  1. This solution to incredibly toxic players is my personal favorite. Take away a summoners ability to chat. This method makes it so a toxic player who constantly flames his teammates and the enemy team in all chat CANNOT verbally flame his team. Whether Riot implemented this on a perma chat restriction basis instead of a perma ban or if they implemented it as a chat restriction for the rest of the season this is without a doubt my favorite punishment method. It still allows toxic players to play the game but eliminates their ability to type. I like this because when I have had chat restrictions it really helps me focus on the game and forces me to mute my teammates if they start to flame me or anyone else because I cannot type to them at all. On top of this communicating with pings is really all you need to win a game. If a player is toxic enough to intentionally feed then a permaban or season suspension from that point on could be looked at and possibility implemented. I think that would be fare, to me at least, because I have never intentionally fed or "ran it down" although I have had bad games (but who hasn't)!

  2. The second solution, that I am in lesser favor of, is a seasonal ban. Instead of permaban just ban toxic players until the end of the current season, or if it is at the end of the season then ban them until the middle of next season. Something that gives the player enough time to reflect about what they have done. I have less to say about this option but would really love if someone replied with their opinion especially about how this could help players instead of permabanning them.

I feel there that instead of a few chat restrictions and a 2 week ban right into perma ban there should be more steps in the path to getting permabanned IF permaban should even still exist. Perhaps chat restrictions -- seasonal chat restrictions -- extended ban periods -- seasonal ban periods -- permabans (for people who continually int due to not being able to type and flame their team).

Again, please comment below / reply to this thread. I really want to see how the community feels about permabans and what other options Riot could explore. We make the community what it is and we have the power to change it. You may think Riot does not care, but at the end of the day we are their source of revenue, and permabans could potentially hurt their revenues, so lets help this games longevity and come up with some other solutions, so that everyone can keep playing!!!

Thank you for your sticking with me to the end everyone.

Happy climbing -Monstria

4 Comments

AeroWaffle10/1/2018, 9:58:06 PM6 votes

Riot already explored the idea of permanent chat restrictions. There was a time where poor chat behavior would continue to stack games of chat restriction instead of banning the player.

The result was not good. Some players were running around with effectively endless chat restrictions (hundreds and sometimes thousands of games before they expired). And Riot observed that these players often resorted to other means of harassing other players when they couldn't do it through chat. By ignoring the fact that they would be punished and still behaving poorly in chat they show that they are willing to behave poorly regardless of the rules in place.

Blocking one outlet of poor behavior just has them choosing another when they want to piss someone off.

As for your second suggestion, that would be counter-productive to the goal of the perma-ban in the first place. The perma-ban is Riot believing that you're completely unwilling to behave yourself regardless of the warnings they give you, so they start encouraging you to go elsewhere. The 14-day ban is your last chance to convince them otherwise.

RustyTrombonisnt10/1/2018, 10:15:34 PM1 votes

I was once told KYS in a game and i had no idea what it ment.. and i asked WHAT DOES KYS MEAN.. i was told it ment killsteal... so when i got ks'd i said KYS much... and then the person who was being toxic and flaming me reported me.. and i got permabanned... Took days to get my permabanned lifted...

riot doesnt care about its players.

Sarutobi10/2/2018, 6:16:01 AM1 votes

You have to remember first and foremost that this is a punishment. You aren't suppose to like it because you are not suppose to get punishment. With that said they already tried permamuting and it didn't work. People just end up trolling and greifing which will make it difficult for the IFS to find, and Riot doesn't want it to get that bad.

Seasonal bans wouldn't work in replacement of a permaban then why call it a permaban. Also note that permaban are for a bunch of other things than just chat.

So how would it work for hackers/trolls/intentionally feeding/etc? Permamuting wouldn't work since those people wouldn't use chat in the first place, then a seasonal ban wouldn't work because more often than not they'll just get/make a new account thus leaving the punishment void for them!