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The reason your champion might have been banned.

Has No Team·12/27/2017, 5:35:00 PM·2 votes·851 views

So a lot of people have been upset before when a team member bans their hover. While it's understandable sometimes there is a good reason for the ban.

Mid: If I see a full AD team most likely that Yasuo or Zed is getting banned. Sure it seems unfair but ban phase is not long enough to have a U.N. peace summit with my mid laner. I'd like to so that my team has a good chance of success and no unwilling particpants but... That's not LoL.

Support: Your support got banned ? Perhaps the ADC did not like the idea of an AoE champ in lane. Abilities rampantly going through the wave is tilting. Also it could be that the team needs a tank and does not need support MF.

ADC: ADC pick could be banned because perhaps the gamble of Vayne makes someone feel uncomfortable. Maybe there needs to be some AoE dmg lke MF or some tower nuking with Trist.

Top: Sometimes when you're top lane and you're about to lock in Riven your team might not be okay with the gamble of Riven either being terribly oppressive via a good laning phase or terribly oppressed because first pick Riven might get met by Pantheon or some other cheese.

Jungle: Junglers... Oh junglers... Sorry but I am guilty of the Master Yi ban. I don't want that elusive jungler who appears only at 25 minutes to go berserk. I've been guilty of banning stuff like that hoping for something more to the tastes of a ganking jungler who can apply pressure to objectives and lanes more so than early game Master Yi can.

Pick Order: Sometimes 5th pick Yas isn't something I want to chance. I would rather ban the champion than hope we get it. Not that Yasuo is OP or anything but personally i feel he's annoying as an ADC main. ( ( ( WIND WALL ) ) ) That's just an example though of why pick order could be a reason. Also the argument of "yes but couldn't you just pick his champ for him or could the top pick do it ?" gets shot down when you consider the top picks might already be contested champions.

It's not to spite you or because someone else doesn't think you can play the champion efficiently... It's just that sometimes a game is better off if a ban is used to prevent that thing that doesn't need to be. I've seen some players adjust their pick and carry the game. Adversely I have seen other just troll the game in to oblivion. It's a chance you take when ban a team member's hover. Sometimes it is worth and sometimes it is not.

TL;DR - There are reasons for banning team picks. It's not automatically because some troll is out to get you. Sometimes the team comp calls for something else. Sometimes it's because your "unique" Mordekaiser support sounds terrible to Jinx. Sometimes it's because someone would rather not see 4th-5th pick Yas get sniped by first pick enemy.

61 Comments

Jo0o12/27/2017, 5:47:26 PM7 votes

These points seem like they'd be better addressed through chat, rather than bans. "Hey, we need a tank". "We're full AD, can mid or top get some AP?". "Do you have any other ADCs? Vayne tilts me."

Bans can be a helpful tool by restricting what the ENEMY is doing. You can remove counter-picks, fotm champs, pet peeves, and specific synergies from your opponents' toolkit. Banning your own teammate's pick is not only imposing your imperfect opinion upon your teammates before the game even begins, but is also giving up the privilege of using that tool offensively.

Coopa12312/27/2017, 9:44:26 PM2 votes

If I see a full AD team most likely that Yasuo or Zed is getting banned.

If you outban your own one trick midlaner your chances of winning are reduced heavily. Not just because you might ban the only champion they can play at a reasonable level it's also incredibly frustrating to play with someone like you and tilting your own teammates definitely won't make them play better/try to win

I'd like to so that my team has a good chance of success and no unwilling particpants but... That's not LoL.

Having a full AD team is better than pissing off your own teammates. I really don't want to make fun of your low ELO and discredit your (wrong) opinion beforehand but at the level you play at team composition and champion picks are COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT

Perhaps the ADC did not like the idea of an AoE champ in lane

And as we already learned: Your opinion > everbody else's

I don't want that elusive jungler who appears only at 25 minutes to go berserk

This isn't how Master Yi is played since the removal of Feral Flare years ago and just further demonstrates your lack of knowledge of the game.I don't get why you would ban a fairly successful jungler at your ELO and further reduce your chance of winning.

RuFiot12/28/2017, 5:49:10 PM2 votes

** TRIGGERED ** [sg-shisa]

I'm sick tired of people banning my (proven to work on like 50 games) Vayne mid in normals.

I just want to repeat wise words I heard here -

"Seriously, with this attitude, I almost wish your future games are filled with unranked Teemo supports who don't speak English. Presuming how other people must play the game is just another kind of toxicity."

p.s.

It barely happens anymore so [sg-ahri-2]

Oxyrotten12/28/2017, 6:37:03 AM1 votes

Bans are overrated.

Especially with the inconsistency of player skill/matchmaking + the snowball meta, it really doesn't matter anymore.

Telephone Booth12/28/2017, 12:44:22 AM1 votes

Yeah but I feel like none of that matters in bronze/silver and you'd be better off just letting people play the champs they know how to play. I've never bitched about getting my champ banned, I'm just saying. In low ELO's I'd say skill overtakes small strategic advantages like having a trist instead of a vayne. They might not even own trist.

HalcyonDweller12/27/2017, 9:23:42 PM1 votes

Moved because we are out of reply space:

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okay well while i appreciate that you admit that it might be a bit personal of an argument the fact remains that I'm not deflecting accountability in any way. There's accountability issues on both sides here. The thing is that we're thrown together arbitrarily to form a synergy and work in tandem. We do not know each other nor each other's intentions. We don't have the time provided to learn them either. I have to figure out quite a few things quite quickly. I see Hecarim support. is the player autofilled? Is the player trying to make me dodge ? Do they really intend to lock that in ? Was it a misclick ? Can I convince them it's not the right move to make ? Sometimes I gather what info I can and try to make a quick convo.. Thing is that when I get told "Deal with it" or "too bad" or any other combination of words that means you won't budge then I'm going to be equally rigid. Do two wrongs make a right ? No. Still I'll be damned if I am going to let that pick slide.

A lot of people kind of "white knight" any support main or player who gets in to it with an ADC because ADC's have a bad reputation. The thing is that ever since autofill came out the things I am talking about are incresingly common. People don't want to play support and don't like being made unwilling participants. The other thing is that the supports who play oddball stuff while it may be fun for them and their friends it isn't fun for someone trying to learn a new ADC in a norm or trying to gain LP in ranked. So The ADC shouldn't have to be on the recieving end of this. I understand most people think ADC's are some evil dicks or something but think about it from playing ADC. You see me lock in "Support Nocturne" are you going to be happy about this in your promos ? How about in general since you're in a norm hoping to get some experience on surviving lane with Vayne ?

If people intend to troll or otherwise pick an unconventional pick, banning one choice will not affect that. If they genuinely intend to win the game, then talking to them in a friendly manner is probably all that it will take to get them to switch.

Regardless of their unknown motives and plans, banning their pick will likely only piss them off and make them less likely to cooperate with you anyways. this is directly detrimental to your goal of "synergizing with your laning partner."

It is never a good idea to ban a teammate's pick for reasons related to them. If you ever ban a pick it should probably be because you don't want to play against it, not because you disapprove of their personal preference.

General Esdeath 12/28/2017, 6:29:17 AM1 votes

ADC pick could be banned because perhaps the gamble of Vayne makes someone feel uncomfortable.

I don't want that elusive jungler who appears only at 25 minutes to go berserk. (Assuming you mean enemy Yi)

Sometimes 5th pick Yas isn't something I want to chance

Only really viable reasons here, rest is just troll