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Common Mistakes in PB&M Posts

Umbral Regent·5/23/2017, 6:58:50 PM·11 votes·440 views

Hey everyone. Just to preface - I tend to look through the PB&M board here every now and again out of idle curiosity, and I've found that there's a bunch of posts that often say a lot of the same things. I wanted to bring these up and also provide counterpoints/explanations to them - not that it'd really reduce their frequency, but, nevertheless, it's worth saying.

1. "I got skipped a penalty tier, why'd I get a 14 day ban instead of a chat ban?" As most anyone on the boards has told basically everyone who posted something like this, these penalty tier skips happen when you do something particularly nasty, alongside showing no signs of reform. Most often, it's racial slurs or other excessively harsh words to players, and generally unsportsmanlike conduct to begin with.

2. "I got punished for just one game!" Likelihood is; no. I've seen a lot of people say this kinda thing, and more often than not, I'll also see Tantram himself pop in and say "this was your 3rd/4th/5th penalty, and you've been warned on multiple occasions." If you got punished from just one game, you're either exceedingly toxic, to the point that the only way to deal with you is to get rid of you, or you're just lying about your difficulty/unwillingness to reform.

3. "I was wrongfully punished!" More than half the time, this usually comes with no chat logs or evidence to back it up, and at least one or two times I've seen evidence that really only incriminates the player further. Riot's punishment system is really fine-tuned, it messing up is probably a one-in-three-hundred chance.

4. "I got punished for flaming a flamer, and he gets no punishment? WTF" This comes in two parts. First and foremost: You don't get off scott-free for fighting fire with fire. If someone flames you, you should not flame them back. Either try to dissolve the conflict, or use the mute feature - or risk suffering whatever punishment tier you're on. And if you're trying to use the flamer instigating a fight as justification for flaming them back, then I'm sorry, but you've lost a lot of credibility and deserve that punishment you got.

The second part comes in the form of a question: Did you report the flamer? Because odds are, if someone flames, they likely have a habit of doing it, and reporting them will more than likely get them punished. If you complain that you got punished instead of them, but didn't report them, then that's on you. Sorry to say it, but, them's the 8r8ks.

5. "I paid for a ton of skins and Champions!" Okay, congratulations, d'you want a medal for it? I've seen a fair handful of people throw that into their discussion as though the money they paid would somehow transform into a "get out of jail free" card. It doesn't. If you buy something in League of Legends and then turn around and break their rules, you have to take the punishment, and you can't leverage bought content against it.

These are just the five most common things I see on the PB&M boards, though I'm sure there's a couple others I haven't seen often enough yet. If anyone would like to discuss these arguments (or counterpoints), feel free to.

5 Comments

Friendly Ram5/23/2017, 8:24:44 PM6 votes

hope this thread can get pinned.

Zielmann5/23/2017, 7:07:02 PM2 votes

Just an observation on #1: A majority of the posts I see that claim they went straight to a 14-day or permanent ban actually did not. If a rioter gets involved in these threads, more often than not, the OP is proven to either lying about having no prior punishments, or forgetting that they ever had them.

25864134DEL15/23/2017, 7:41:37 PM2 votes

What I don't get is why so many people here are so eager to accept the current rules as if they were The Holy Word passed from the God himself. Sure, its their game and their rules and we agreed to the current terms. That is the fact, but it does make the rules infallible and not open to discussion. I may take a lot of flak for this one, but after reviewing them myself I truly feel that Riot took the easy way by writing them in as loose and broad manner as possible, so they would have an upper hand in any situation conceivable. Technically, you can get permabanned for a few sexist jokes and a lame insult. While I understand that Riot, like any proper business is first and foremost concerned about revenue, I also cannot help but to consider what would happen if every business IRL operated like that. We would be in one of these megacorp dystopia films in no time. Yes, I have no choice but to accept these rules if I want to play this game. That doesn't mean I am just gonna roll over without saying a word. A truly positive change in a community can only occur when both parties are willing to improve themselves, and it seems to be that Riot only wants their customers to improve. An automated autoban system that activates based on an arbitrary number of reports and then simply searches for preprogrammed keywords to ban a person is not a healthy client-business practice in any conceivable IRL scenario. It is an easy way out for riot, a way that doesn't make them spent time or money on a proper, case by case judgment system. The way I see it, the whole current report/ban system is an aggression fueled machine, created by riot for a singular purpose of making their own lives easier, no matter the cost to the community itself.

ModPrandine5/23/2017, 8:12:27 PM2 votes

To add onto number 4, the reason A got punished first while B didn't is most likely because A has a longer history of frequently acting up while B does not. Basically if you're consistently behaving poorly then expect to be punished over someone who only shows poor behavior once in a blue moon.