WARNING: UNPOPULAR OPINION

scazzman·Jun 27, 2016·2 votes·802 views

so i have to ask. what makes calling someone the n word or a f****** somehow "different" than calling someone retard/stupid/downie/autistic/any other insult? shouldnt they all be treated the same?

13 Comments

Angry MonsterJun 27, 20162 votes

actually you are taking the easy position, not the unpopular. You are going to get up-votes (well not from me) for this topic. There is a difference between stupid and retard, one is a condition or illness and the other a person willingly not using their brain.

They are not the same and should not be treated the same either. Things that are derogatory about who a person is, should be 0 tolerance (with strangers).

Here is a real unpopular statement.

When people are stupid they should be called out on it. When people are cruel they should called on it. When people troll they should be called on it. They should be pulled into the light of day, instead of getting away with it and getting to hide. (Yes name and shame).

The difference between these and other things (that you listed) are intentional not a state of being.

edit the feels when the thread went from +2 into the negatives.... and said the OP was taking the easy position.

DeadlyStalkerJun 27, 20161 votes

In this country saying the words Niger and fuck are taboo. But calling someone a piece of shit, mental retarded autistic downie, or showing a guy decapitate another person and then chew his eyeballs is Okay.

LostFr0stJun 27, 20162 votes

They aren't different. Riot has a zero tolerance policy for both.

scazzmanJun 27, 20161 votes

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They aren't different. Riot has a zero tolerance policy for both.

one can net you an instant permaban. while the other can't

LostFr0stJun 27, 20161 votes

Calling anyone any of the terms written above in the OP other than "stupid" and "any other insult" (specific insult dependent) will give someone a ban.

FlahertyJun 27, 20161 votes

4chan doesn't represent the normal general population, all of those things are seen as bad by normal people.

DeathBurstJun 27, 20161 votes

So, I agree that both should be treated the same way.

But I fear that you would advocate for "n-gger" or "f-ggot" to be treated with less severity. IMHO, it should be the opposite, it's the more "common" insults that should be treated equally hard as the more taboo topics.

scazzmanJun 27, 20161 votes

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So, I agree that both should be treated the same way.

But I fear that you would advocate for "ngger" or "fggot" to be treated with less severity. IMHO, it should be the opposite, it's the more "common" insults that should be treated equally hard as the more taboo topics.

actually i dont care either way. i just don't like the double standard

DeathBurstJun 27, 20161 votes

Well, the double standard exists for historical reasons. Black people or homosexuals have campaigned for their rights for a long time, and they have come to a point where it's accepted that race or sexuality should not be the basis for insults. Mentally ill people didn't, so it's not as taboo, but I think it's more out of lack of awareness than out of real maliciousness. If you are aware of the double standard, it's your job to campaign against it and to spread awareness ;)

And tbh, I don't think that this kind of thread is the good way to do it. "Retard" should not be acceptable as an insult because it's not cool in its own right, not just because "n*gger" is already taboo. The parallel between the two doesn't bring anything constructive.

scazzmanJun 27, 20161 votes

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Well, the double standard exists for historical reasons. Black people or homosexuals have campaigned for their rights for a long time, and they have come to a point where it's accepted that race or sexuality should not be the basis for insults. Mentally ill people didn't, so it's not as taboo, but I think it's more out of lack of awareness than out of real maliciousness. If you are aware of the double standard, it's your job to campaign against it and to spread awareness ;)

And tbh, I don't think that this kind of thread is the good way to do it. "Retard" should not be acceptable as an insult because it's not cool in its own right, not just because "n*gger" is already taboo. The parallel between the two doesn't bring anything constructive.

my issue is that an insult is an insult. so why are some insults considered "less bad" than others. when the intent and context are both the same

DeathBurstJun 27, 20161 votes

I just told you: because of historical reasons. Not saying it's a good situation but that's why it exists. And it's up to people like you to correct the present situation.

AraMoOseJun 27, 20161 votes

The only one that is significantly different in your cited examples is "stupid".

And the difference is the following. In the instance of "stupid", you are attacking only an individual. In all the other stated instances, you are by association attacking an entire group of individuals by insinuating that these things are bad.

i.e. If you're insulting someone by calling him an (N word), you are by extension insinuating that being black is a bad thing. Therefore you are insulting both the individual and an entire community.