Riot should take into account more factors during the banning process

Zoah Sitri·8/22/2016, 5:38:29 PM·4 votes·1,059 views

I hope Riot realizes how hard they baby their players and that the majority of players only report because of personal hatred for the other player through either bad play or good play on the other team. Also take into account that some players play more than others so somebody else could have been toxic for 20% of their games but play 1/10th as much as I do while I'm toxic 2% of my games and I get perma banned without being told that the previous chat restriction was a precursor of being permanently banned, and that other player is not be banned yet because the system doesn't take into account for percentages or how many years I've played. I believe that these are flaws in the system and Riot should take into account with the whole banning system.

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Kei1438/22/2016, 6:15:57 PM4 votes

its dependent on your recent games only. Not lifetime games. That 2% really doesn't matter.

Why would it depend on lifetime games anyways. You are causing mishaps now, so you get punished now.

ModPrandine8/22/2016, 9:07:52 PM3 votes

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I hope Riot realizes how hard they baby their players and that the majority of players only report because of personal hatred for the other player through either bad play or good play on the other team.

If by "babying" you mean actually holding their players accountable for their own behaviors then yes they are babying their players. Otherwise no they're not. Reports only trigger a review of the player in question, but if that player has done nothing wrong then they won't be punished and the report will be thrown out and deemed as a false report.

Also take into account that some players play more than others

And? What's your point here?

so somebody else could have been toxic for 20% of their games but play 1/10th as much as I do while I'm toxic 2% of my games and I get perma banned without being told that the previous chat restriction was a precursor of being permanently banned,

I find this hard to believe. Besides, a 2-week ban is the final warning you get before being permabanned (they tell you this in the Reform Card), so if you're being permabanned it's because you repeatedly ignored the warnings given to you in the form of at least 35-games worth of chat restrictions+a 2 week ban as well. If you were excessively toxic then it's possible that you were escalated to a permabanned status right away, but only Riot knows that for sure, not us.

and that other player is not be banned yet because the system doesn't take into account for percentages or how many years I've played.

They'll have their own case if they continue to act up and be valid reported, but regardless though someone else acting up and behaving poorly will never give you a free pass on exhibiting the same poor behavior as well. From Understanding the Tribunal:

4) That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? a) I'll keep this one simple: retaliation isn't OK. Reacting to a toxic player by being toxic just incites that player to be even worse--it also ruins the game for up to 8 other players. It is far, far worse to watch two people yelling at each other all game than it is to watch 1 player ranting into blank space. Almost everyone in the game can find someone out there that behaves worse than they do--but so what? Finding someone worse doesn't justify your behavior or justify retaliation. We expect more out of our players. What players often don't realize is... those other players in your game that you thought were worse? Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on. If you retaliate, both of you will be banned. It's really that simple.


I believe that these are flaws in the system and Riot should take into account with the whole banning system.

Yes the system isn't perfect, nor will it ever be perfect for that matter, and improvements can always be made to make it better. However, as it stands the current 4-strike system in place does its job well enough. Now if you would like to actually discuss your ban then post your Reform Card here in its entirety.

Colgate Gator8/22/2016, 9:02:45 PM3 votes

And people should take into account that their actions have consequences, but we don't live in a perfect world.

WolfChases8/22/2016, 6:47:10 PM2 votes

And riot should take into account the players interaction. If someone is flaming me without a single reason, simply because he decided to troll and be annoying and I answer him with flame after his 10th flame I should not be banned or warned at all. Even tho this is somehow a sport, no one should test your nerves just like that.

I literally had a Lee Sin in enemy team few days ago who got killed by my team mate during a gank and he said "I wish your mom dies of cancer" I was stunned, no one from both teams flamed before that, he told him that he wishes him that his mom dies of cancer just because he died in game and I bet that guy didn't even got banned.

I am not a flamer, playing lol since 2012 if I remember well, maybe 2013 and I literally never said even "GG Easy" I only got chat restricted once year ago or maybe 2 years ago when I played with my friend and we were making fun, not in terms of gameplay, we played normally but we ere kinda "Fake Toxic" to everyone and we both got restricted :D :D But I know a lot of guys who literally defended themselves and got restricted, permanently or temporary.

GodKing Thumper8/22/2016, 11:15:43 PM1 votes

I hope that you realize just how small of a percentage of players ever get a punishment, let alone the small fraction of the punished players that get a permaban. :)

Astôlfo8/22/2016, 9:48:05 PM1 votes

Why? It's working just fine, from what I see here.

Totalwanabe8/22/2016, 10:21:35 PM1 votes

like a straight perm ban to anyone calling someone a troll that would create a massive exodus of new account

DEKInw8/22/2016, 6:07:30 PM1 votes

i also think that score should be considered into play when determining punishment. theres a big difference in a 16 2 6 adc telling a 0 10 2 flamer to stfu then just a random unprovoked STFU NOOB