Why we should be allowed to leave game

AlenAngi·9/12/2018, 9:26:34 AM·2 votes·2,911 views

Here are some arguments:

1_ popular games right now are getting faster and faster paced (see fortnite) and so is league itself, u will get team-mates leaving as much as enemy players leaving no?

2_ people take this game too seriously, hence the constant flame u get expecially in euw (na is much better), so if something tragic happens and somebody leaves, thats good just end and go next, whats the problem?

3_ soloQ isnt LCS, there is no price or money involved, u are supposed to have fun and u really cant if u trapped in a game, i know we all wasting time playing anyway, but is it really necessary to waste even more? wouldnt be more funny if u could play more games in the same amount of time?

4_ after 6 years playing and climbing from bronze to a pathetic gold 3 i realised something, this game is actually just a coin flip, u get a decent team u win, else ofc u lose, i can carry in this elo like i can in bronze 5 ONLY if my team wants to get carried, u might as well deserve plat and be stuck in silver (just a little proof here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYo8fYnoFIE bronze master yi carrying in plat), i've been stuck in silver 3 for years cause i played with the team and for the team and this just doesnt work...i had to master one champ and only play it, mute all everygame and steal as many kills, jungle camps and CS to climb.... is this how a team game is supposed to be? so if u get a nightmare team why cant u just leave?

i'd like to read some arguments about why we shold NOT be allowed to leave. how being stuck in hell with some monkeys for 20/30 mins can be consired funny and overall better? u maybe like the late-game where a single fight decide who wins anyway?

34 Comments

WukongMain9/12/2018, 10:05:13 AM9 votes

Not being allowed to leave is what stops me from leaving when there is negativity afoot. Even if im going positive, if my team is arguing i'm willing to just leave and do something else cause their arguing will usually mean we lose the game. i doubt they'd leave even if allowed. cause they would wanna win.

Being allowed to leave will probably mean i leave more than half my games.

Costing hundreds of people precious LP and even ranked promos. Which is unfair to them. But id do it anyway. Cause after over half a decade of playing i just don't care about other players winning or losing anymore. it's sad. but its the truth. however unfair it is.

i am sure there are others out there that would do as i do. and leave a bunch of games just cause the atmosphere is too negative.

Being allowed to leave ranked games without punishment will surely be the final nail in the coffin for league of legends. This can never be allowed to be implemented into the game. it will cripple it beyond repair.

Voldymort9/12/2018, 9:33:11 AM8 votes

how being stuck in hell with some monkeys

[sg-lulu]

there it is... the entitled player's go-to insult

Baka Red9/12/2018, 9:55:09 AM7 votes
  1. Those games most likely have a system to replace the person who suddenly disappeared from the team. League doesn't have that. Afkers force the rest of the team to play from a disadvantage and thus afking is not acceptable from that point of view. If you cannot live with that, go play those other games, thanks.

  2. If you have an emergency, you won't be punished for that. Otherwise the same applies as to step 1: Afkers force the rest of the team to play from disadvantage. If you start the game, play it to the end or suffer the consequences.

  3. So would you say it is okay for local football(whatever) team players to go take a break whenever they feel like it, since they aren't earning any money playing football (or whatever) and let the enemy team finish the game with some extra players on the field? No, I didn't think so either.

  4. I don't really a comment about ranked play. I only play ARAMs, so luck always plays big part in my matches. Sometimes you are the underdog, but still win. You are supposed to do your best even if the enemy is somehow "better". Afking is hardly "doing your best" and if someone afks during my Holy ARAM match, he get a report no matter if he is an ally or an enemy. Afking in League is not acceptable, since there are no replacement players for the afkers.

deathgod59/12/2018, 10:23:25 AM6 votes

Ok, you seem to give multiple points with every number so let me address why I disagree with you on almost every point.

popular games are faster paced.

This would actually be an argument against people leaving the game, as the games last shorter the time spent argument becomes less relevant. Also the decision to not ban leavers in fortnite is probably partially decided by the casual nature that game has.

Enemy team players would leave just as much.

That is true, but by massively increasing the number of leavers would still ruin the experience for the ones staying behind would be even worse increasing toxicity and trolling. You would still ruin the game for people that feel that they have a chance. ##People take the game too serious. Yes, that is what the mute button is for. You don't have to listen to him. ##Leaving in case of a tragedy You can leave in case of a tragedy, you have to leave quite often to get the afk limit(source had to leave on main account quite a few times recently)

Get to play more games

No, you play a team game, you do not get to decide when the game is lost, the team gets a say in that(surrender vote). Banners, skins and wards are all reasons people might play this as well(they are not money but they are a reward).Peoples personal ratings are involved and for some, this is a point of pride. It is just like this in little league soccer, where a single player doesn't get to decide the fate by leaving(even though there is no big gains).

It is a coinflip.

Bullshit, if it was a coinflip channels like HuzzyGames couldn't consistently play an account to diamond in 100 games or less. That doesn't mean that a bronze can't carry or win a game in plat, or that a bronze can't carry a game in plat.

You get a few games where you can leave already but, when you leave the game, you ruin games for other players. You get punished for ruining games and that is fair.

Umbral Regent9/12/2018, 10:55:18 AM5 votes
  1. popular games right now are getting faster and faster paced (see fortnite) and so is league itself, u will get team-mates leaving as much as enemy players leaving no?

This is not a valid argument. In fact, I'd imagine it works more against "being allowed to leave matches", since, why leave matches if they're over so fast?

If matches play out so quickly, then surely, you should be fully able to play out the quick match you signed up for, no?

  1. people take this game too seriously, hence the constant flame u get expecially in euw (na is much better), so if something tragic happens and somebody leaves, thats good just end and go next, whats the problem?

......I don't get this. Are these two points put into one?

Flame doesn't justify people leaving, and neither does anybody leaving for any reason. You signed up for a full match of League, if you abandon your teammates and ruin the fun and challenge for your enemies, you're going to have to deal with the consequences.

  1. soloQ isnt LCS, there is no price or money involved, u are supposed to have fun and u really cant if u trapped in a game, i know we all wasting time playing anyway, but is it really necessary to waste even more? wouldnt be more funny if u could play more games in the same amount of time?

Again, this is two separate points put into one.

It doesn't matter that there's no money on the line, you still signed up to play a full match, regardless of whether you win or you lose.

And as for fun - you're not the only person in the match. There are at least five to nine other players (disregarding Hexakill) and they all want to play the match out. Why should you be allowed to ruin their fun just because you can't tough out one bad match?

And what do you define as a match that isn't fun? One where you're losing? One where even one player isn't playing to your specifications? If it's the former - then why even sign up to play if you're just going to leave - and almost certainly default to a loss - at the first sign of losing? If it's the latter...Again, what makes your fun and enjoyment of the game more important than theirs?

  1. after 6 years playing and climbing from bronze to a pathetic gold 3 i realised something, this game is actually just a coin flip, u get a decent team u win, else ofc u lose, i can carry in this elo like i can in bronze 5 ONLY if my team wants to get carried, u might as well deserve plat and be stuck in silver (just a little proof here...bronze master yi carrying in plat), i've been stuck in silver 3 for years cause i played with the team and for the team and this just doesnt work...i had to master one champ and only play it, mute all everygame and steal as many kills, jungle camps and CS to climb.... is this how a team game is supposed to be? so if u get a nightmare team why cant u just leave?

You were stuck in Silver III because you played like someone from Silver III. Bear in mind, this isn't rank shaming, and I mean no offense, but you typically only climb as high as you can climb. You are your only limiting factor when it comes to how high you climb in the Ranked ladder or MMR system.

If you're stuck in any particular rank, and getting matched with other players of that rank, it's probably because you play like that rank. And let me tell you, you're not gonna climb higher by leaving matches.


Here's some arguments as to why you shouldn't be allowed to leave matches-in-progress;

  1. You are not the only person in the match. Unless you're playing Custom games, you are playing with other people, and those other people want to play a fair and even match. Opponents want to have a full enemy team to challenge them, and allies want a full team to work together for the win with.

When you leave a match, you're putting your own interests and fun above that of 5-9~ other players, which only serves to show yourself as selfish and petty.

  1. You signed up for a full match of League, and you're expected to play it out. You wouldn't get onto League if you didn't want to play it, and you sign up for a match knowing that your victory - and probably even your personal experience of the match - are not guaranteed. Leaving a match in progress just because it goes south or doesn't go exactly in the direction you want is just weak, quitter mentality, and honestly, if you can't commit to a full match of League...Why sign up for it in the first place?

  2. Fun is virtually always better when it's fought for. That is the principle concept of competition. Adversity in and of itself is the draw of the game, and rising to the challenge and winning is what makes League fun - and it's only made that much more fun when you actually turn shit around in an otherwise bad match.

It can definitely be fun to do something easy, but that's not what competition is about, and that's not why you sign up for competition. If you want something easy, go do something easy, but don't act like League was ever that. League is a place of competition, and if you don't want to compete, don't sign up for it.

  1. There are more fun things in League besides winning. Some of the matches I've had the most fun in were hard L's, and I did not care for the loss compared to what I did in the match. Whether I had fun just fighting to the last, chatting and enjoying someone in the match - regardless of team - or going on a rampage and becoming a beast in the match despite ultimately losing, you can have fun that doesn't demand you end with a W.
Mc Truck9/12/2018, 10:07:05 AM3 votes

Two points to make:

  1. Uncontrolled leavers in moba spoil the experience, throwing perfectly winnable games if they lost earlygame, I know it after playing dota(1) for 6 years.
  2. Fun is for casuals. If you want fun instead of winning, go play custom games.
Inkling Commando9/12/2018, 7:13:10 PM2 votes

i like how you point out in 2 that people take this game too seriously and here you are ranting about ranks and what not.

Kei1439/12/2018, 11:47:54 AM2 votes

So you give up early cos the enemy's landing phase is better?

No wonder people's macro and rotations suck.

There are so many bad macro plays people do all the time to throw, to the point that there isn't 100% lost match.

Dr Dog9/15/2018, 8:10:18 AM1 votes

if you were stuck s3 you were an s3 player its simple as that, you dont bad teams are a plague ya but if your straight up stuck thats where you probably belong until you improve

CharDeeMcDenniz9/12/2018, 10:46:00 AM1 votes

there would almost never be a finished 5v5 game

giving people the freedom to leave whenever they want is a terrible idea

Shukr4n9/12/2018, 11:41:51 AM1 votes

Ok make u free to leave.

But u get the entire 5players lp loss.

Deal?

BeatzBoyFTW9/12/2018, 11:52:14 AM1 votes

League would die a lot faster than the PAX event tbh.

And please stop downvoting me just because I mentioned the forbidden term, jeez.

AlenAngi9/12/2018, 2:34:41 PM1 votes

my stupid suggestion would be like.. if a team-mate leaves, u can surrender at any minute, even the 3rd....

many of my games last so damn long cause i cant leave so i try my best to carry and to even the odds... the thing is when i succeed and make a great comeback i dont feel good, i actually feel very tired and exhausted an i usually stop playing after that.

i like the challenge,: last hitting as a mage mid-laner, dodging and landing skillshots, using my ulti in the best way etc. are challenges.... trying to 1v9 or even 3v7 (lets say my jungler is useless and my top feeding) is pure masochism

EyesOfTheFox9/12/2018, 2:41:07 PM1 votes

I won a game the other day where our Talon left 15 minutes into the game and we 4 v 5 the enemy team. We had a Yasuo tho so....

AlenAngi9/12/2018, 7:34:47 PM1 votes

anyway IF league is dying is because of a lack of new players.....

new players are most likely youngsters and im pretty sure they dont want to play a game that literally traps you and force of you to play

there are plenty of threads like this and videos on youtube about this subject