There are too many people being banned and permanently banned from "swearing" or simply being trolled by reporters. There needs to be a report less "Toxic Player Queue" for players not offended by the toxicity of others. Some players enjoy it. Is this too much to ask for, Riot? You would make more money and lose less players when players can keep the same account and not resort to repeatedly making alternative accounts posy ban. Thoughts?
elduris3 votesI think not being able to play is a better punishment than playing with other toxic players. If you can still play, do you have any reason to reform?
JAHrekt1 votesWhat about people who don't view "swearing" as toxic. Some people aren't living in a bubble, and are legitimately unoffended and far more open minded than the average individual. Reform is for people that want / need change. For players that don't view reform as legitimate, reform doesn't exist as a reality. You can't change people. That's a small minded pathetic angle at social engineering. It's a bad joke for the individual who is unoffended by what thinner skinned individuals call "toxic". Make sense?
What about people who don't view "swearing" as toxic. Some people aren't living in a bubble, and are legitimately unoffended and far more open minded than the average individual. Reform is for people that want / need change. For players that don't view reform as legitimate, reform doesn't exist as a reality. You can't change people. That's a small minded pathetic angle at social engineering. It's a bad joke for the individual who is unoffended by what thinner skinned individuals call "toxic". Make sense?
Believe it or not you don't have to use swear words to be a jerk-I've even seen cases in the past where not one swear word was uttered in the chat by the defendant, yet it was still a punish verdict because they were still being a verbally abusive jerk to other people. Besides, swearing in general is not what gets people punished, it's swearing at others and being a jerk in general (swearing or not) that gets people punished.
As far as being unoffended goes, if you're not offended by it then fine, more power to you then. However, even people who are unoffended can generally tell when someone is being a jerk. You are right in that we can't change everyone, but there are allot of people out there who will actually listen to reason and change their behaviors for the better, and sometimes all it takes is just a simple warning or a chat restriction to do so.
From Ulanopo's Knowledge Base:
People who report are simply being oversensitive. The mute button exists for a reason.
Lets start with the Riot quote on this (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30696571#post30696571)):
Why is verbal abuse punishable if there is a mute button/language filter? Players shouldnt need to rely on features like the mute button or language filter to engage with other players in positive ways. When a player verbally abuses another player and forces him to use the mute button, they have already created a negative experience for that player.
Simply put, Riot says no. You can scream and cry all you want, but it is their house and their rules.
With that out of the way, I think the topic deserves some further discussion. The theory is that, if people resolved to care less, then they would be happier. I often refer to this as Argument from Stoicism and I think it is a fairly weak philosophy because it places the burden on the person being expected to endure the behavior rather than the person exhibiting the behavior. You should be able to handle it is just a flimsy excuse for being a bully or a jerk. I have to be the bigger man so that you can do whatever you want? That hardly seems fair.
There is also the issue of how I spend my limited free time. Like most people, I am constantly required to make value judgments between the different forms of entertainment that are available to me and, let's be honest, we live in an age of nearly limitless entertainment options. If I'm having a bad day in League, I can just fire up Steam and play a whole bunch of games that don't require me to put up with someone's BS.
This is not an issue of weakness or thin-skin; it's a question of choosing activities that don't leave me feeling frustrated and angry. Too many of those experiences and I'll just find something else to do. Riot knows this.
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Revali2 votesI would rather not see that queue come to light of day
imagine a new player accidentally going into that queue by accident ;-;
JAHrekt1 votesThey would learn they were in the wrong spot rather quickly.. Maybe its time someone made a different game.
ModPrandine2 votesWhat you're suggesting is called "Prisoner's Island", which Riot has already stated numerous times that they will not be implementing in League of Legends. If a player truly wants to reform then they will put in the actual effort that it takes to do so. If they won't then that's what permabans are for, to prevent them from ruining any further games with their own poor behavior. From Lyte:
Well, in discussions we commonly refer to this as the Prisoner's Island idea--basically, all the negative toxic players get lumped together on their own island and get matchmade with each other.
This would definitely not be usable in Ranked because it would split the ladder into two demographics and no longer be about the best players.
In Normal Modes... there's a lot of potential discussion points that are just difficult to predict. For example, we know that toxic players tend to experience more toxicity because their teammates or opponents reciprocate their toxicity--that means on Prisoner's Island, the average game is going to be horrendously toxic to the point that the players might just quit (or create smurfs and wreck havoc on low level players).
Secondly, what happens when someone on Prisoner's Island invites a friend that is new to the game? The new player experiences Prisoner's Island and never wants to play again.
There's actually quite a few more issues, it's a pretty interesting topic around the offices.
EvilDustMan1 votesNo because que is not a word.
Angry Monster2 votesIts not an English Word, its a Spanish one.
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Its not an English Word, its a Spanish one.
Bring on the 'Toxic PLayer What?'
GankRiven1 votesi agree.