@Riot; question about behavior; "Account sharing"/"Account inheriting"

Dominick Destine·Mar 4, 2016·3 votes·2,307 views

I recently came into possession of a new account from a friend that has quit the game. He will not play it again or at least its incredibly unlikely, it is basically my account now , however... I was not the original owner.

Does this qualify as "Account sharing" and will this new account be potentially banned in the future because of it? (NOT THE ONE I'M USING RIGHT NOW, I've had this one since early S2 and no one but me has ever played on it)

19 Comments

ModMod CuratorMar 4, 20165 votes

If you're not the original player on the account, it's against the Terms of Service.

Dominick DestineMar 4, 20161 votes

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If you're not the original player on the account, it's against the Terms of Service.

Alright so , that doesn't really answer my question... will it get banned if I play it? I understand you're implying that it is but I want to know with 100% certainty.

There is literally no other owner anymore and I specifically did not trade for it... I don't see how it is "sharing" when there is no one to share it with. Isn't this some type of exception? I'm not boosting anyone I just want to play on lower brackets every now and then but don't want to waste time if it will eventually get banned.

ModMod CuratorMar 4, 20164 votes

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Alright so , that doesn't really answer my question... will it get banned if I play it? I understand you're implying that it is but I want to know with 100% certainty.

There is literally no other owner anymore and I specifically did not trade for it... I don't see how it is "sharing" when there is no one to share it with. Isn't this some type of exception? I'm not boosting anyone I just want to play on lower brackets every now and then but don't want to waste time if it will eventually get banned.

100% certainty it is against the Terms of Service and will result in the account being banned permanently. It doesn't matter if there is now no other owner or if you traded/sold/whatever. All that matters is you weren't the original player on the account.

If you want a new account, go make one from scratch.

Dominick DestineMar 4, 20161 votes

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100% certainty it is against the Terms of Service and will result in the account being banned permanently.

That's really disappointing.... ok second question; If the new account in my control gets banned, will that in any influence my main account? that is to say, let's say I play 100 matches on the new account and I get perma-banned in match 101... after that I will return to my original account, will my original account be perma-banned as well?

If you want a new account, go make one from scratch.

I might do that but my question is, why? what's the purpose of punishing me for organically inheriting an account?

I get it, and I will suffer the consequences no problem, but it seems arbitrary as hell.

ZielmannMar 5, 20161 votes

Let's say there's a diamond-level player who, for one reason or another, decided they didn't want to play anymore. With no ill-intentions, they offer the account to a friend, who is (at best) a silver level player. It's going to take a lot of games for the account's MMR to drop to an appropriate silver level where the new account holder is matched evenly with their opponents. While the account is dropping, it'll create a miserable experience for anybody put into games with this guy.

To your question about whether or not Riot will ban the main account after finding your secondary one was not yours to begin with, that shouldn't happen. At least not for a single instance of using an account that wasn't originally yours. If you've not shared the main account with anybody else, it should be in the clear.

ValyrianBladeMar 5, 20161 votes

It will get banned if they find out.

So your question is really: Will Riot find out?

If you play similar champions at a similar level of play? Odds are they'll never find out. Although now that you've posted this, there's a chance they could find whatever account switched from a different IP to your IP... but that's not worth their time anyways.

If you're at drastically different skill levels, or even just play different styles of champions, then it's more likely you'll get caught. Will Riot care? Or have enough to be certain and ban it? Probably not. Possibly though.

It is against the rules. It IS a bannable offense (whether it should be is irrelevant). Whether Riot chooses to ban it or not is unknown.

AerothalMar 4, 20162 votes

dude. just read ToS. It can not get any clearer. NO ACCOUNT SHARING WHATSOEVER. please, just the tiniest bit of research tells you that.

Dominick DestineMar 4, 20161 votes

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NO ACCOUNT SHARING WHATSOEVER.

Share definition; use, occupy, or enjoy (something) jointly with another or others. have a portion of (something) with another or others.

Notice how I am the sole owner of this account now given that there is no one else. It cannot qualify as sharing because there is literally no one else.

AerothalMar 4, 20161 votes

are you just trolling?

"You shall not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or make any such offer, and any attempt shall be null and void."

in your case its a gift which is mentioned above as not allowed.

Deep Terror NamiMar 4, 20162 votes

You're wasting your time looking for loopholes; there is no exception.

AerothalMar 4, 20161 votes

^this

AnratonMar 4, 20161 votes

it is account trading - and against terms of conditions as well as acount sharing ...

Dominick DestineMar 4, 20161 votes

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it is account trading

How is it trading? here is the definition of trading; 1- buy and sell goods and services. 2- exchange (something) for something else, typically as a commercial transaction

I bought nothing. I gave nothing. I simply inherited it organically as someone I knew abandoned the game. It is not a trade.

AnratonMar 4, 20163 votes

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/legal/termsofuse

D. Account Sales. The Account supplied to you is personal to you, and Riot Games does not recognize and expressly forbids the transfer of user Accounts. You shall not purchase, sell, gift or trade any Account, or make any such offer, and any attempt shall be null and void. Any distribution by you of your Account and/or your Login Credentials (except as expressly provided herein or otherwise explicitly approved of by Riot Games) may result in suspension or termination of your Account.

RcincrMar 4, 20161 votes

If I gave you something for free its still trading/buying.

AerothalMar 4, 20161 votes

READ ToS

Anraton did it for you already. now read what he quoted from the terms of use publication. or is that too hard to understand?

ShadowAce666Mar 4, 20161 votes

From Riot's point of view, yes the account qualify's to be banned. Regardless of the reasons for why you have it now, it fits into their ToS definition and they won't hold any exceptions for you. No reasoning you bring into this discussion will change it, you've asked and everyone has answered. You aren't going to convince Riot, so don't even try to convince anyone else on here.

Though, I doubt they'll actually realize you are not the original user unless you or someone else makes it known to them. So do what you will with all this information.

Dominick DestineMar 4, 20161 votes

Sure. My new question is; If I play the new account until it becomes banned... will my original account be affected in any way? Like, will I get double banned for dabbling in the dark arts of inheritance?

BlueThingamajigMar 4, 20161 votes

It is against terms of service. It is well within Riot's stated policy to ban that account if you choose to use it.

...However, it isn't guaranteed. I know several people who play on accounts that were gifted from others, with no expectation of monetary or account return. They have not been banned. There is no 100% certainty that Riot will ban the account. I don't even think Riot actively pursues account sharing bans, because it is the most benign of the offences that can happen.

Imo, the account sharing rules are primarily to maintain responsibility of the account owner regarding behavioral offenses (i.e. 'my little bro did all those things, not me' or 'I never scripted (but my MMR booster did)')