14 day ban because i played soraka top (and did awesome) CHAT TRANSCRIPT WITH RIOT

Elsa113·2/8/2018, 2:54:37 AM·2 votes·1,552 views

Chat started You Game 1 Elsa113: 2/0/0 soraka top. Elsa113: gj fid Elsa113: wp Elsa113: gj bot Elsa113: 2/1/2 soraka top Elsa113: guys, i'm winning as soraka can ya'll plz stfu and play Elsa113: if i were swain i'd of carried you guys.... Elsa113: why is our support going to solo top Elsa113: i'm so done with this Elsa113: you guys shouldn't of banned my swain, i coulda 1v5's Elsa113: i mean... i'm still doing my best Elsa113: sadly one troll screwed us all Elsa113: i dare you to report me for soraka top Elsa113: i dare ou Elsa113: these ninjas don't realize i have death cap soraka heals Elsa113: gg guys Elsa113: at least we tried Elsa113: whoever banned my swain... this game is on you. Elsa113: bet you wish i was swain now... Elsa113: who wishes i was swain? i sure do... Elsa113: gg all Elsa113: plz don't vote no, i don't scale for anything :( Elsa113: i healed you for the penta.... just FYI Elsa113: i didn't have to die there Elsa113: comin Elsa113: comin Elsa113: dont Elsa113: b Elsa113: dont b Elsa113: fid Elsa113: plz god don't ult minions Elsa113: what's the cd on your ult? Elsa113: lie 80 sec Elsa113: yeah man totes my fault lol Elsa113: bro we gave free drake Elsa113: im here to win too Elsa113: but idc about honors Elsa113: wow Elsa113: 1 shot Elsa113: gj guys, gj Elsa113: wp Elsa113: very nice Elsa113: end it Elsa113: or... ignore me Elsa113: that's fine too
Elsa113: silver is silver Elsa113: love it Elsa113: gg boys Elsa113: was fun Elsa113: wish i were sawim Elsa113: yah, report me cause you banned the champ i had highlighted and tried my best Elsa113: totes Elsa113: lol this game Elsa113: what a disaster Elsa113: if only someone hadn't of banned swain Elsa113: dang it Elsa113: i really could've carried so hard Elsa113: you think i gave up? Elsa113: here man, i WILL actually give up now Elsa113: gg Elsa113: report plz Elsa113: thanks Elsa113: bye Elsa113: nah Elsa113: fk that Elsa113: this guy bans my champ Elsa113: and then threatens to report me Elsa113: i'm out Elsa113: my main is plat Elsa113: idc Elsa113: gg all

somehow 1 game of chat history and people reporting me for playing soraka support is enough to warrant a ban?

Magistrate Tempus joined the chat You can you please tell me how i could play the best i could, send absolutely no hate chat whatsoever, and get banned for 14 days JUST because i played soraka top?

Magistrate Tempus Hey there! I will be sending this off to the team that can look into this for you! Hold tight! :) You thanks man

Magistrate Tempus of course. They will be here soon. Opti joined the chat

Opti HI THERE

HOW AR EYOU

omg

sorry for caps.... You Hi, i'm a bit frustrated because i'm banned at the moment.

Opti :( You which, to me, seems like it was just because i was soraka top

Opti im sorry

lemme look

first thing i see is that youve had two recent chat restricitons You FYI, the reason there is so much chat is because they assumed that i was trolling JUST because i was soraka top

Opti i see that Magistrate Tempus left the chat You it's true, i have had chat restrictions, but i've changed my ways and have not been chatting anything offensive

and i've been doing the best i can every game

so, is just a surplus of chat, game related, bannable?

Opti welp

as you know

this is a long chat

you want to tone it down

and be more positive You i felt obligated to tell people that i wasn't trolling just because of my champ pick

and frankly, i did the best i could (which wasn't awful) all game long.

Opti dont engage with people

and the moment the flame begins, mute, ignore and report

once you engage with people, you're held responsible for what you say :/ You yeah but can't people report me for failing to communicate too?

if they could not report for that, i would just hide chat every game

and never say a thing

Opti no

dont worry about it

and if anything happens

let us know You hmm, that's not a bad idea... but i still don't understand how i violated the TOS

Opti Chat is a tool to discuss strategy and encourage players, not berate them with negativity, arguing and criticism, those are things you wanna avoid

if you're not sure if you should say it

dont

thats my rule anyway lol You i didn't berate anyone (except for the guy who maliciously banned my champ) and even then i didnt call him any names

simply said, hey man i could have carried if you didnt ban me out.

Opti im just saying You your rule is a good rule and i SHOULD abide by it. with that said, i'm still not sure how i violated your ToS/

Opti code of conduct

section 5

5.1

in general You i did the best i could all game long, i didn't use any hate speech

Opti you just wanna stick to a chat that helps win the game

Try complimenting people for their kills/builds/warding/ect. Say "GLHF", "GG" in the game and be supportive. You i didnt threaten anyone, troll anyone, flame or harass anyone

and i never would threaten anyone

not even on my worst day

Opti im glad to hear that

that's good You after all, this is just a game

Opti but the thing is

being negative is not ok You how was i negative?

Opti [17:00] Elsa113 (Soraka): guys, i'm winning as soraka can ya'll plz stfu and play You yes, look at their chat

Opti [19:03] Elsa113 (Soraka): why is our support going to solo top [19:09] Elsa113 (Soraka): i'm so done with this

no You they were berating each other all game long

i was simply telling them that "hey, i'm winning as a non meta pick, please do the best you can"

granted that's not verbatim

Opti im sorry

but their chat doens't mattter You but that was the general message

Opti it is how YOU chose to respond You yeah, i said hey i'm winning stfu and do the best you can....

how is that being negative?

Opti im sorry

but i will not debate these with you You don't be sorry, please explain to me

Opti these are examples

telling people to "shut the fuck up" does not help You how just because i was report for playing a non meta pick (which everyone said they would in queue) is negative?

Opti i dont think you understand

again You i didn't use a swear word

Opti you were not punished for your pick You i used an acronym

i didn't swear at all

Opti you were punished for your negative attitdue You i was the most positive person on the team....

Opti but you're not focusing on you You all game i said, essentially, please do you best

Opti you're talk ing baout everyone else

at the end of the day

you're responsible for what you say You yes, and i used no hate speech, tried to advise my allies on how to do their best, and played my best all game long

so again, i don't understand what i'm banned for.

Opti you dont have to use hatespeech to get punished You please, tell me how i violated your ToS?

Opti I've noticed is that the chats are extensive

chat is meant to be a tool for positivity and strategies

writing a ton in chat takes away from that You and that's exactly how i used it

so correct me if i'm wrong: you're telling me that telling my support not to go solo top is negativity?

even though a support's job is BASICALLY to provide vision, make plays, and aid an adc in staying alive?

or did i get banned for just excessive chat?

Opti you were banned for your attited

attitude* You excuse me, but tell me exactly what you mean...

Opti writing a ton in chat is a factor too, not thee reason You i was positive all game

i played the best i could all game

and i tried to help my allies all game

Opti but you weren't. You how wasn't i?

Opti [19:09] Elsa113 (Soraka): i'm so done with this

[20:12] Elsa113 (Soraka): sadly one troll screwed us all

[22:00] Elsa113 (Soraka): i dare you to report me for soraka top [22:03] Elsa113 (Soraka): i dare ou

[26:13] Elsa113 (Soraka): whoever banned my swain... this game is on you. [27:24] Elsa113 (Soraka): bet you wish i was swain now...

you literally keep the negativiity in the game

about complainign about someone banning swain

you also conitnue to talk about reportin gpeople You again, read the chat man... the first message you copy pasta'd was after i said "hey support don't go solo top"

Opti which in itself is negative and can get you punsihed You and the rest of the messages you copy pasta'd were me telling my team "hey, don't ban out champs your allies have highlighted"

Opti you asked for examples You how is that any more negative than the guy who banned the champ i had highlighted in pregame?

Opti i am giving them to you

again, this is not a debate

man, come on

that guy does not matter

you matter

:( You you're right it's not, cause you're not making ANY valid points dude

Opti what YOU said matters

that guy will be in a different conversation

we'll talk to him if he writes in You you're saying that i'm the negative one because i said "hey man, don't ban champs your allies have chosen to play"

and then i said "hey man go ahead, report me for playing a champ you dont like"

that is somehow negativity?

please explain how

Opti let me ask you this

do either of those things help you win the game? You okay let me ask you this: if 4 people would've reported me for playing soraka top (and doing awesome) without my defending myself, would you still have banned me?

Opti no, please answer my question. You okay, realistically no, those comments don't help me or my allies win the game....

Opti alright

in general You but also, them telling me i'm trolling all game long, just because of my champ, doesn't help me win

so... did you ban/punish them?

Opti asking for reports is negative. it keeps the focus on porr behaviors. and it only takes ONE report to get reviewed, so it doens't matter.

i can't tell you abotu thenm You meh, bro that's ONE example from a 30 minute game in which i literally did the best i could all game long

Opti for privacy reasons You and tried to help my team

Opti you're right

it is one example

there are other You so you REALLY believe, that this game warrants me getting a 14 day ban?

Opti example 2: your chat is pretty long, we want you to focus on the game. talking a bunch removes focus

yes

you just had chat restrictions :( You okay well i can't wait to post this chat history to your boards then....

because i didn't do anything wrong

i did the best i could

and i tried to help my allies

granted, you're right dude, i said one stupid thingh

Opti i know its frustrating

im sorry you dealt with this

for the record You i'm glad to know you guys ban everyone who says one stupid thing in every game

Opti i think soraka top isn't the worst

although i think tanks should be top

imo You it's heart warming to know that you guys ban everyone who plays 1 non meta pick and says 1 stupid thing every game

that's really comforting

Opti again

i told you

that wasn't the case

at all You it was exactly the case, according to what you've told me here...

Opti "it's heart warming to know that you guys ban everyone who plays 1 non meta pick" - i literally told you this was not the case You lol, how did you omit the second half of that statement?

Opti :(

the second have is kinda true

but im saying playing soraka had zero to do with the ban You soooo you're saying, 1 statement of negativity, is enough to warrant a 14 day ban?

regardless of prior chat restrictions?

Opti no

the opposite

yuou've had chat restrictions

and because you're still being negative You yeah, i have, you're right

Opti we took further action You how was i negative?

Opti im sorry

but we already discussed this

:( You advising allies not to ban the champ i had selected is negativity?

Opti yes

when you're in game

that does nothing to win

threataning

and talking about it

over and over

talking about reports You actually it does serve to helping them win in the future

Opti over and over is not okay. You i didn't threaten anyone... how on earth did i threaten someone?

please. enlighten me.

Opti [27:24] Elsa113 (Soraka): bet you wish i was swain now...

in the light context You how is that a threat?

threat THret/Submit noun 1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Opti [44:18] Elsa113 (Soraka): here man, i WILL actually give up now [44:20] Elsa113 (Soraka): gg [44:22] Elsa113 (Soraka): report plz [44:23] Elsa113 (Soraka): thanks [44:32] Elsa113 (Soraka): bye [44:58] Elsa113 (Soraka): nah [44:59] Elsa113 (Soraka): fk that [45:03] Elsa113 (Soraka): this guy bans my champ You threat THret/Submit noun 1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Opti you're threataning to give up

i just want to review a little

you wrote in to chat You i didn't threaten anyone...

at all

i did the best i could all game long

as i enumerated repeatedly

Opti to ask about why you were banned. you were negative through the game, talking about reporting players, talking about negative things like your team banning your pick, saying things like "this is a disaster", ect. Your chat was also long which takes focus off of the game. You were also negative over and over saying you were done. This is not okay, and why you were banned. You hahaha so observations about the current game are now negativity?

i didn't suggest that i would report anyone

Opti yes

they are You and all game long i tried to tell them how we could win

Opti [44:18] Elsa113 (Soraka): here man, i WILL actually give up now [44:20] Elsa113 (Soraka): gg [44:22] Elsa113 (Soraka): report plz [44:23] Elsa113 (Soraka): thanks

im sorry You again why won't you show the chat of my allies?

Opti but at this point

ive given what context i can You again, why won't you show the chat of my allies?

Opti your chat is the only one that matters

it is how you choose to respond You threat THret/Submit noun 1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.

Opti im sorry You i disagree

Opti but i have to move on to new players You if 4 people report me

just BECAUSE i was a non meta pick

their chat definitely matters

since they flamed me all game long, accused me of trolling, just because i was soraka top

and i defeneded myself

i was positive all game and did the best i coudl

Opti im sorry but i'm not closing the chat

goodnight. You go ahead then

i've said my peace

and will post to teh board

goodnight, also nothing personal

just that your reporting system is broken

Opti i totally understand

goodnight You again, i'm waiting for you to leave... i'd like to include that in the copy pasta

so, whenever you want....

You FYI, the reason there is so much chat is because they assumed that i was trolling JUST because i was soraka top

Opti i see that Magistrate Tempus left the chat You it's true, i have had chat restrictions, but i've changed my ways and have not been chatting anything offensive

and i've been doing the best i can every game

so, is just a surplus of chat, game related, bannable?

i know that it tells me when you leave the chat... so i'm still waiting man.

see the "Magistrate Tempus left the chat" line??? i'm waiting to see a "Opti has left the chat" line.

Helloooooooo?

So what you're telling me is, you don't even stand beside your commentary enough to actually leave the chat?

59 Comments

AeroWaffle2/8/2018, 3:00:06 AM4 votes

I'll just quote my post from your previous thread; https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/sQqJGedI-14-day-ban-1-game-of-chat-history

{quoted}

Were you recently off another punishment?

You had a pretty negative, defeatist, and passive aggressive attitude the entire game.

Zezockary2/8/2018, 3:02:32 AM4 votes

I didn't read the whole chat with the Rioter.

The ban was because you decided to use the chat function to spend all game bitching about your team banning Swain. That isn't what chat is for, and they can ban whoever they want. Just like you can take whoever you want top lane.

The reason it is a ban instead of a chat restriction is because you already had two chat restrictions.

Zombie Gerbil2/8/2018, 2:59:11 AM1 votes

The ban has nothing to do with who you chose. It's how you acted. You were toxic. Your team banning your champion doesn't give you any rights to ruin everyone else's game. Your fun isn't more important than everyone else.

Imperial Pandaa2/8/2018, 3:22:05 AM1 votes

So I'm actually going to talk about your final comments on waiting for Opti to leave the chat. I think it was a bug in the chat. Where Magistrate brought Opti in, caused it to bug. Earlier you see Magistrate leave and then at the end he is apparently leaving again. I think the second one was Opti and it just bugged.

Mordius2/8/2018, 3:30:44 AM1 votes

The system doesn't ban for 1 game.

You had a history of toxicity. and after your last ban you were continually toxic. This was the final game the system deemed was enough to punish you. It doesn't list the other games, but they count against you.

That is why you were punished