14 day ban because i played soraka top (and did awesome) CHAT TRANSCRIPT WITH RIOT
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Elsa113: 2/0/0 soraka top.
Elsa113: gj fid
Elsa113: wp
Elsa113: gj bot
Elsa113: 2/1/2 soraka top
Elsa113: guys, i'm winning as soraka can ya'll plz stfu and play
Elsa113: if i were swain i'd of carried you guys....
Elsa113: why is our support going to solo top
Elsa113: i'm so done with this
Elsa113: you guys shouldn't of banned my swain, i coulda 1v5's
Elsa113: i mean... i'm still doing my best
Elsa113: sadly one troll screwed us all
Elsa113: i dare you to report me for soraka top
Elsa113: i dare ou
Elsa113: these ninjas don't realize i have death cap soraka heals
Elsa113: gg guys
Elsa113: at least we tried
Elsa113: whoever banned my swain... this game is on you.
Elsa113: bet you wish i was swain now...
Elsa113: who wishes i was swain? i sure do...
Elsa113: gg all
Elsa113: plz don't vote no, i don't scale for anything :(
Elsa113: i healed you for the penta.... just FYI
Elsa113: i didn't have to die there
Elsa113: comin
Elsa113: comin
Elsa113: dont
Elsa113: b
Elsa113: dont b
Elsa113: fid
Elsa113: plz god don't ult minions
Elsa113: what's the cd on your ult?
Elsa113: lie 80 sec
Elsa113: yeah man totes my fault lol
Elsa113: bro we gave free drake
Elsa113: im here to win too
Elsa113: but idc about honors
Elsa113: wow
Elsa113: 1 shot
Elsa113: gj guys, gj
Elsa113: wp
Elsa113: very nice
Elsa113: end it
Elsa113: or... ignore me
Elsa113: that's fine too
Elsa113: silver is silver
Elsa113: love it
Elsa113: gg boys
Elsa113: was fun
Elsa113: wish i were sawim
Elsa113: yah, report me cause you banned the champ i had highlighted and tried my best
Elsa113: totes
Elsa113: lol this game
Elsa113: what a disaster
Elsa113: if only someone hadn't of banned swain
Elsa113: dang it
Elsa113: i really could've carried so hard
Elsa113: you think i gave up?
Elsa113: here man, i WILL actually give up now
Elsa113: gg
Elsa113: report plz
Elsa113: thanks
Elsa113: bye
Elsa113: nah
Elsa113: fk that
Elsa113: this guy bans my champ
Elsa113: and then threatens to report me
Elsa113: i'm out
Elsa113: my main is plat
Elsa113: idc
Elsa113: gg all
somehow 1 game of chat history and people reporting me for playing soraka support is enough to warrant a ban?
Magistrate Tempus joined the chat You can you please tell me how i could play the best i could, send absolutely no hate chat whatsoever, and get banned for 14 days JUST because i played soraka top?
Magistrate Tempus Hey there! I will be sending this off to the team that can look into this for you! Hold tight! :) You thanks man
Magistrate Tempus of course. They will be here soon. Opti joined the chat
Opti HI THERE
HOW AR EYOU
omg
sorry for caps.... You Hi, i'm a bit frustrated because i'm banned at the moment.
Opti :( You which, to me, seems like it was just because i was soraka top
Opti im sorry
lemme look
first thing i see is that youve had two recent chat restricitons You FYI, the reason there is so much chat is because they assumed that i was trolling JUST because i was soraka top
Opti i see that Magistrate Tempus left the chat You it's true, i have had chat restrictions, but i've changed my ways and have not been chatting anything offensive
and i've been doing the best i can every game
so, is just a surplus of chat, game related, bannable?
Opti welp
as you know
this is a long chat
you want to tone it down
and be more positive You i felt obligated to tell people that i wasn't trolling just because of my champ pick
and frankly, i did the best i could (which wasn't awful) all game long.
Opti dont engage with people
and the moment the flame begins, mute, ignore and report
once you engage with people, you're held responsible for what you say :/ You yeah but can't people report me for failing to communicate too?
if they could not report for that, i would just hide chat every game
and never say a thing
Opti no
dont worry about it
and if anything happens
let us know You hmm, that's not a bad idea... but i still don't understand how i violated the TOS
Opti Chat is a tool to discuss strategy and encourage players, not berate them with negativity, arguing and criticism, those are things you wanna avoid
if you're not sure if you should say it
dont
thats my rule anyway lol You i didn't berate anyone (except for the guy who maliciously banned my champ) and even then i didnt call him any names
simply said, hey man i could have carried if you didnt ban me out.
Opti im just saying You your rule is a good rule and i SHOULD abide by it. with that said, i'm still not sure how i violated your ToS/
Opti code of conduct
section 5
5.1
in general You i did the best i could all game long, i didn't use any hate speech
Opti you just wanna stick to a chat that helps win the game
Try complimenting people for their kills/builds/warding/ect. Say "GLHF", "GG" in the game and be supportive. You i didnt threaten anyone, troll anyone, flame or harass anyone
and i never would threaten anyone
not even on my worst day
Opti im glad to hear that
that's good You after all, this is just a game
Opti but the thing is
being negative is not ok You how was i negative?
Opti [17:00] Elsa113 (Soraka): guys, i'm winning as soraka can ya'll plz stfu and play You yes, look at their chat
Opti [19:03] Elsa113 (Soraka): why is our support going to solo top [19:09] Elsa113 (Soraka): i'm so done with this
no You they were berating each other all game long
i was simply telling them that "hey, i'm winning as a non meta pick, please do the best you can"
granted that's not verbatim
Opti im sorry
but their chat doens't mattter You but that was the general message
Opti it is how YOU chose to respond You yeah, i said hey i'm winning stfu and do the best you can....
how is that being negative?
Opti im sorry
but i will not debate these with you You don't be sorry, please explain to me
Opti these are examples
telling people to "shut the fuck up" does not help You how just because i was report for playing a non meta pick (which everyone said they would in queue) is negative?
Opti i dont think you understand
again You i didn't use a swear word
Opti you were not punished for your pick You i used an acronym
i didn't swear at all
Opti you were punished for your negative attitdue You i was the most positive person on the team....
Opti but you're not focusing on you You all game i said, essentially, please do you best
Opti you're talk ing baout everyone else
at the end of the day
you're responsible for what you say You yes, and i used no hate speech, tried to advise my allies on how to do their best, and played my best all game long
so again, i don't understand what i'm banned for.
Opti you dont have to use hatespeech to get punished You please, tell me how i violated your ToS?
Opti I've noticed is that the chats are extensive
chat is meant to be a tool for positivity and strategies
writing a ton in chat takes away from that You and that's exactly how i used it
so correct me if i'm wrong: you're telling me that telling my support not to go solo top is negativity?
even though a support's job is BASICALLY to provide vision, make plays, and aid an adc in staying alive?
or did i get banned for just excessive chat?
Opti you were banned for your attited
attitude* You excuse me, but tell me exactly what you mean...
Opti writing a ton in chat is a factor too, not thee reason You i was positive all game
i played the best i could all game
and i tried to help my allies all game
Opti but you weren't. You how wasn't i?
Opti [19:09] Elsa113 (Soraka): i'm so done with this
[20:12] Elsa113 (Soraka): sadly one troll screwed us all
[22:00] Elsa113 (Soraka): i dare you to report me for soraka top [22:03] Elsa113 (Soraka): i dare ou
[26:13] Elsa113 (Soraka): whoever banned my swain... this game is on you. [27:24] Elsa113 (Soraka): bet you wish i was swain now...
you literally keep the negativiity in the game
about complainign about someone banning swain
you also conitnue to talk about reportin gpeople You again, read the chat man... the first message you copy pasta'd was after i said "hey support don't go solo top"
Opti which in itself is negative and can get you punsihed You and the rest of the messages you copy pasta'd were me telling my team "hey, don't ban out champs your allies have highlighted"
Opti you asked for examples You how is that any more negative than the guy who banned the champ i had highlighted in pregame?
Opti i am giving them to you
again, this is not a debate
man, come on
that guy does not matter
you matter
:( You you're right it's not, cause you're not making ANY valid points dude
Opti what YOU said matters
that guy will be in a different conversation
we'll talk to him if he writes in You you're saying that i'm the negative one because i said "hey man, don't ban champs your allies have chosen to play"
and then i said "hey man go ahead, report me for playing a champ you dont like"
that is somehow negativity?
please explain how
Opti let me ask you this
do either of those things help you win the game? You okay let me ask you this: if 4 people would've reported me for playing soraka top (and doing awesome) without my defending myself, would you still have banned me?
Opti no, please answer my question. You okay, realistically no, those comments don't help me or my allies win the game....
Opti alright
in general You but also, them telling me i'm trolling all game long, just because of my champ, doesn't help me win
so... did you ban/punish them?
Opti asking for reports is negative. it keeps the focus on porr behaviors. and it only takes ONE report to get reviewed, so it doens't matter.
i can't tell you abotu thenm You meh, bro that's ONE example from a 30 minute game in which i literally did the best i could all game long
Opti for privacy reasons You and tried to help my team
Opti you're right
it is one example
there are other You so you REALLY believe, that this game warrants me getting a 14 day ban?
Opti example 2: your chat is pretty long, we want you to focus on the game. talking a bunch removes focus
yes
you just had chat restrictions :( You okay well i can't wait to post this chat history to your boards then....
because i didn't do anything wrong
i did the best i could
and i tried to help my allies
granted, you're right dude, i said one stupid thingh
Opti i know its frustrating
im sorry you dealt with this
for the record You i'm glad to know you guys ban everyone who says one stupid thing in every game
Opti i think soraka top isn't the worst
although i think tanks should be top
imo You it's heart warming to know that you guys ban everyone who plays 1 non meta pick and says 1 stupid thing every game
that's really comforting
Opti again
i told you
that wasn't the case
at all You it was exactly the case, according to what you've told me here...
Opti "it's heart warming to know that you guys ban everyone who plays 1 non meta pick" - i literally told you this was not the case You lol, how did you omit the second half of that statement?
Opti :(
the second have is kinda true
but im saying playing soraka had zero to do with the ban You soooo you're saying, 1 statement of negativity, is enough to warrant a 14 day ban?
regardless of prior chat restrictions?
Opti no
the opposite
yuou've had chat restrictions
and because you're still being negative You yeah, i have, you're right
Opti we took further action You how was i negative?
Opti im sorry
but we already discussed this
:( You advising allies not to ban the champ i had selected is negativity?
Opti yes
when you're in game
that does nothing to win
threataning
and talking about it
over and over
talking about reports You actually it does serve to helping them win in the future
Opti over and over is not okay. You i didn't threaten anyone... how on earth did i threaten someone?
please. enlighten me.
Opti [27:24] Elsa113 (Soraka): bet you wish i was swain now...
in the light context You how is that a threat?
threat THret/Submit noun 1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
Opti [44:18] Elsa113 (Soraka): here man, i WILL actually give up now [44:20] Elsa113 (Soraka): gg [44:22] Elsa113 (Soraka): report plz [44:23] Elsa113 (Soraka): thanks [44:32] Elsa113 (Soraka): bye [44:58] Elsa113 (Soraka): nah [44:59] Elsa113 (Soraka): fk that [45:03] Elsa113 (Soraka): this guy bans my champ You threat THret/Submit noun 1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
Opti you're threataning to give up
i just want to review a little
you wrote in to chat You i didn't threaten anyone...
at all
i did the best i could all game long
as i enumerated repeatedly
Opti to ask about why you were banned. you were negative through the game, talking about reporting players, talking about negative things like your team banning your pick, saying things like "this is a disaster", ect. Your chat was also long which takes focus off of the game. You were also negative over and over saying you were done. This is not okay, and why you were banned. You hahaha so observations about the current game are now negativity?
i didn't suggest that i would report anyone
Opti yes
they are You and all game long i tried to tell them how we could win
Opti [44:18] Elsa113 (Soraka): here man, i WILL actually give up now [44:20] Elsa113 (Soraka): gg [44:22] Elsa113 (Soraka): report plz [44:23] Elsa113 (Soraka): thanks
im sorry You again why won't you show the chat of my allies?
Opti but at this point
ive given what context i can You again, why won't you show the chat of my allies?
Opti your chat is the only one that matters
it is how you choose to respond You threat THret/Submit noun 1. a statement of an intention to inflict pain, injury, damage, or other hostile action on someone in retribution for something done or not done.
Opti im sorry You i disagree
Opti but i have to move on to new players You if 4 people report me
just BECAUSE i was a non meta pick
their chat definitely matters
since they flamed me all game long, accused me of trolling, just because i was soraka top
and i defeneded myself
i was positive all game and did the best i coudl
Opti im sorry but i'm not closing the chat
goodnight. You go ahead then
i've said my peace
and will post to teh board
goodnight, also nothing personal
just that your reporting system is broken
Opti i totally understand
goodnight You again, i'm waiting for you to leave... i'd like to include that in the copy pasta
so, whenever you want....
You FYI, the reason there is so much chat is because they assumed that i was trolling JUST because i was soraka top
Opti i see that Magistrate Tempus left the chat You it's true, i have had chat restrictions, but i've changed my ways and have not been chatting anything offensive
and i've been doing the best i can every game
so, is just a surplus of chat, game related, bannable?
i know that it tells me when you leave the chat... so i'm still waiting man.
see the "Magistrate Tempus left the chat" line??? i'm waiting to see a "Opti has left the chat" line.
Helloooooooo?
So what you're telling me is, you don't even stand beside your commentary enough to actually leave the chat?