Why banning for verbal abusiveness in a game should not be allowed.

awdaf·6/8/2016, 9:44:18 PM·2 votes·1,300 views

I understand the basic reasons for being reportable from using foul language against a teammate, however, why should I be banned for it? I ask this question because of the feature called "mute". If someone starts talking trash to another teammate, shouldn't the logical and mature thing to do be mute that person and let them talk all the trash they want to a wall? I can understand abuse if someone creates multiple accounts in attempts to keep reaching the same person and throwing foul language in them, but when you have the ability to mute that person for letting out steam because he wants to criticize you in a foul way, and that person gets banned, doesn't make sense in my mind.

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28 Comments

Deep Terror Nami6/8/2016, 9:53:49 PM13 votes

If a player is forced to mute you, you've likely already done damage. Muting is to prevent further problems from you only in the current match. Reporting is to prevent you from being a problem in the future to more people.

Account bans take a while to get to. Chat restrictions are the first tiers of penalties, and most people that get them reform and never reach the "unfair" ban for verbal abuse. It's when a player refuses to change and continues to be a problem that they get moved up to a ban, though extremely toxic behavior may result in skipping chat restrictions altogether.

Also, "foul language" typically isn't the issue. It's directing it at other players in a negative manner that is.

shouldn't the logical and mature thing

Verbally abusing people is the opposite of mature, so I wouldn't accuse others of not wanting to deal with it of being immature. If you are unsure how you are expected to behave in this community, I suggest reading the following articles;

The Summoner's Code Behavior Worthy of a Champion

Votable Jester6/8/2016, 9:47:46 PM8 votes

Muting teammates reduces communication potential for the rest of the game. Yes, it may be the right decision anyways, but it's best if everyone just has the self control to not badmouth someone in-game. Cuss all you want irl, but try constructive criticism in-game.

nerak236/8/2016, 9:55:05 PM7 votes

I ask this question because of the feature called "mute". If someone starts talking trash to another teammate, shouldn't the logical and mature thing to do be mute that person and let them talk all the trash they want to a wall?

The Mature thing the Logical thing to do is follow the few simple rules.

The mute button is not there so others can abuse their teammates, it is there so players can stop reading trash talk before the get mad enough to engage in the same!

G4LLOWSC4L1BR4TR6/8/2016, 9:47:04 PM7 votes

Rito has said time and again that a mute button doesn't justify you being an asshole. Like it or not, those are the rules, and you can abide by them or you can leave. If you want to criticize someone, say it out loud instead of typing it. that way you can still let off steam and not get banned. It's what I do, and it's worked fine for me in the 4 years I've been playing this game.

redniwediS6/8/2016, 10:08:14 PM7 votes

The most argument proof reason is because you signed an agreement that says Riot can ban your account for whatever reason they see fit. They also set some behavioral guidelines for you to follow.

You don't follow their rules you get banned. It's really as simple as that.

I'm not really sure "verbal abuse" and "logical and mature" are phrases that should go along with one another. Most people grow out of the need to call others names as they get older.

Swiftstrike46/8/2016, 9:50:19 PM6 votes

The logic and mature thing is to simply not verbally abuse people. At the minimum, you should treat people on the internet how you would treat another human being in person. But anonymity alters individual behavior significantly.

archerno16/8/2016, 9:48:38 PM6 votes

Mute exists so you wouldnt have to deal with that person in that game Ban exists so noone would have to deal with that person ever.

EvilDustMan6/8/2016, 10:21:44 PM4 votes

The straight poop is this. Riot doesn't want you cussing people out trying to coach them. We don't want you cussing us out trying to be our coach.

You have two choices. Accept the fact and clean up your act, or continue to get banned.

If you don't like it, too bad.

If you don't agree, too bad.

Tahyana6/8/2016, 10:20:14 PM3 votes

The point is you can help someone in game without cussing at them. It is not sportsman-like conduct to cuss are verbally harass someone. This can make a person play worse. Can some people handle it? Maybe, but there are those who play games to relax from a stressful day or those who use gaming as an escape from the situation they are in for while, and verbally abusing them makes it worse.

Dispelle6/8/2016, 10:12:37 PM2 votes

Also, if we're bringing real-world legal consequences for immaturity into question, I'd like to direct your attention to such things as restraining orders, convictions for harassment, verbal assault, stalking, etc.

Adalore6/8/2016, 10:03:08 PM2 votes

The mature reaction reaction is mute TO abusive players, but I ALSO want to remove them from the game over all so I can play with people who are not abusive.

If this is a one off bullshit event, whatever, the system accounts for "Bad days", but habitual abusers can rightly go get thrown out the exit.

Kei1436/8/2016, 10:17:19 PM1 votes

logs or it didn't happen.