Chat restricted for talking back to inters and flamers who didn't stop spam pinging me.

Sir Scarfaith·7/27/2019, 6:02:43 PM·3 votes·2,319 views
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Genuinely, Riot's report system is beyond r%%%%%ed. Literally if a staff was to check my recent game THEMSELVES, I wouldn't have gotten this chat restriction. Post game I did say a couple of things but that was because literally the enemy team kept spamming "ez" and taunting the living shit out of me. My own team kept spam pinging and calling me useless and trolling. This is literally the peak shit that I'm tired of taking. This is the second time I got chat restricted over this bullshit. Yet the actual griefers and inters don't even get punished. NOT EVEN A MUTE OR BAN. LITERALLY. PLEASE FIX THIS LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.

11 Comments

Imperial Pandaa7/27/2019, 6:04:44 PM6 votes

Before I even open the link to the logs, why didn't you just mute them? Instead of retaliating, you could have muted pings and/or chat.

ModThe Djinn7/27/2019, 6:05:29 PM6 votes

I wouldn't have gotten this chat restriction.

Did you break the rules? If so, you could have gotten a chat restriction either way, because you don't get an exception just because other people are being jerks.

It looks like you definitely did insult other players, so this is a reasonable restriction:

Sir Scarfaith: useless Sir Scarfaith: this fucking bot lane man Sir Scarfaith: 0/3 ashe Sir Scarfaith: fucking let me one shot idiot Sir Scarfaith: Idiots like her should be on here Sir Scarfaith: When players like her stop acting like a child Sir Scarfaith: How about Sir Scarfaith: You get a life Sir Scarfaith: instead of acting like a cocky shit head on here Sir Scarfaith: im weak early dipshit Sir Scarfaith: Cry more Sir Scarfaith: can oyu stfu Sir Scarfaith: yea but then sometimes even idiots can call out something good Sir Scarfaith: he;'s shit anyways braum

KFCeytron7/27/2019, 9:43:58 PM2 votes

So, it has come to this: someone displayed misbehavior in a LoL match in flagrant disregard for the game's rules, ToS, EULA, and Summoner's Code. That's unfortunate, and I'm sorry you had to deal with it. If this misbehavior happened in chat (including emotes or ping) and they don't respond positively to a single, courteous, constructive request to focus on the game, your best option is to mute that player. Submit a report after the match. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by asking them to keep it down and then notifying library staff and moving to another area.

Do not respond with misbehavior of your own! If you do that, your teammates may mute and report you, and those reports would be valid. This is equivalent to dealing with a noisy person in a library by getting into a shouting match with them. Just because someone else started it doesn't justify you in continuing it. I'm sure you're familiar with the "s/he started it" trope, where two children get into an argument or fight and then try to claim innocence of any wrongdoing by claiming that they didn't instigate it. As any parent, teacher, or other supervisor of children will tell you, that excuse doesn't fly. When Dad is trying to drive you to Disneyland and your annoying brother starts making faces at you as he's previously been told not to, you should calmly ask him to stop, and then, if that doesn't work, calmly notify your parents of the problem. Making faces at him or shouting at him has never been a good way to get him to stop, and it makes you just as guilty of that as he.

Riot doesn't care who started it. Someone else's misbehavior does not justify your own.

Hmm, it looks like you broke the rules here. What's that you say? Your teammate or opponent did or said something even worse? Definitely report them after the match, just as someone reported you for your own misbehavior. Yes, that's certainly possible. Reports are not a limited resource. Any time someone believes that another player violated LoL's behavioral standards, they can report that player. Punishments are similarly not limited: if more than one player in a game merits a punishment, they can both get a punishment. This can happen even if the players in question were antagonizing each other. The IFS doesn't need to weigh the severity of all reported players' actions and then "award" the "winner" with a punishment; it's not a contest.

Think of it like dealing with a noisy person in a library: ask them to keep it down, and then notify library staff and move to another area if that doesn't work. If you get into a shouting match with them, you're just as likely to be removed, even if you weren't shouting quite as loudly as they were. The goal is a quiet library.

In a perfect and just world, everyone who deserved a punishment would get one. In reality, it is possible for some punishable behavior to go unpunished. First, punishments in LoL can only occur after a valid report. Second, punishments take into account the consistency and severity of the punished player's misbehavior: if two players in a match break the same rule in the same way, one who consistently misbehaves in this way might get a punishment while the other who almost never does so gets away without a punishment (this time). At the end of the day, though, all this does is explain how differences in player behavior over many games can produce different results for equivalent behavior within a single game. It doesn't excuse poor behavior. One person having a rare bad day doesn't give a consistently toxic player the right to join in. The only behavior that matters in your punishment is your own... and a good thing, too: how would you feel if you behaved yourself but got punished anyway just because all your teammates were spectacularly friendly, communicative, and positive?

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

We can not discuss other players’ actions with you but you can always report them at end of game and mute them when in game. There is no excuse for raging back or responding to people trying to get you to tilt. You are the only one responsible for your actions and your words which is what we are trying to address with these bans.

From Riot's support knowledgebase:

  • Simply speaking, retaliation is not an acceptable or justifiable behavior. An argument between two players can easily create a negative experience for the rest of the players in the game with you. Regardless of the other player’s actions, this does not justify your own behavior. You alone are responsible for your actions within the game.If you encounter a toxic player like this, the best option is to simply report their behavior and move on.
  • Reports are a vital piece to the puzzle. If you are not sure of what sort of behavior is reportable take a look at the Reporting a Player FAQ

The only chat messages included in your chat log are your own for a single, extremely good reason: they are the only ones taken into account for your punishment, because they're the only ones in your control. The things other players said and did in your match might produce in you an impulse to do certain things that may include breaking LoL's rules, but your behavior is your own, and you are responsible for it. If you really think about it, this is a good thing. If a toxic player's goading could exempt you from punishment for your flaming them, calling for reports, etc., then it would logically go the other way as well, resulting in punishments for players who didn't necessarily break any rules but weren't quite as friendly and positive as their teammates. Can you imagine a world where "didn't participate in the dance party and ignored all of our jokes" was a valid report that could get someone suspended for two weeks? We don't want that situation anymore than we want "called our support a braindead waste of space" to be considered an invalid report just because, say, the support was telling their team to harm themselves while they merrily ran it down mid.

Eybdoog7/27/2019, 10:27:05 PM1 votes

Just stop playing this game. Definitely stop spending money on it. The game is broken.