The number of bots in Co-Op vs. AI is disgusting.

AngelRain·5/29/2017, 1:28:00 PM·113 votes·16,412 views

I know there are threads like this already, but I feel like this subject is important and needs a lot more attention, so I'm posting another one.

For the last few months the botting in League of Legends has been getting completely out of hand. First they started showing up almost every game in ARAM, often with all of them on one team. The people who got stuck with the 3 feeding bots just had a terrible game that they had no chance of coming back from, and could do nothing but let the winning team end it quickly. They couldn't even surrender. The people on the winning side had no fun in doing so, because they'd have been in exactly the same circumstance as the enemy team before, and statistically they probably would be again in their next game. It made me give up on playing ARAM altogether and just stick with Co-Op vs. AI.

Now the bots are in Co-Op too. Every single game I've played in the last few weeks has had a minimum of 2 bots, and the last few have had 3-4. They always go mid and feed the enemy laner (usually an AP carry who can 1-shot you when he gets enough kills), to around 10/0 by 6 minutes in. If there are enough real people on the team working together, the fed bot can usually be shut down or the game can be won by split-pushing, but when there are 4 bots on a team against Intermediate AI, the game is an automatic loss – one that you can't even surrender from, or quit without getting leave penalties.

Sometimes you can spot a bot in queue by their name and summoner spells (heal and barrier) and just dodge the game. Usually though, you have no way of being sure until you get to the loading screen and see that they all have the same icon and no keystone mastery. By that point all you can do is exit the client and wait it out, but you're already screwed because you'll just get leave penalties for doing it, and the next Co-Op game you queue for will 100% certainly have bots in it too. If you're like me and decide to go into the game and hope there's at least one other human on your team, then in game the bots will buy boots first and not move until the minions spawn, then start running down mid lane and suiciding to the AI. If you're alone with 4 bots and decide to go AFK, then you get leave penalties. It's a broken system that punishes the ones already being hurt by the botting, and it's a seriously crappy feeling to be left with zero choice other than to simply not play Co-Op anymore.

Every game I report the bots, but the next game I load into has 4 new ones, and again the game after that. There isn't even an easy way to get hard physical proof of the botting to send in online, because the replay feature isn't implemented for that game mode. All I can do is report, and post on the forum, but it feels like nothing comes of it. I suffer through it in hopes that it will get better, but I feel like nothing's being done about it, like Riot just don't care enough to fix the problem. I've been playing this game since 2011, I've kept coming back time and again for new champions and map updates, and I've spent a lot of money on skins and icons... but this is honestly making me not want to play League of Legends at all anymore.

Come on, Riot. Please... end this nonsense.

78 Comments

ModCaptainMårvelous5/29/2017, 5:23:29 PM22 votes

From what I understand, Riot bans in waves when it comes to things like Scripting and Bots. (Mostly to not let on how quickly they know about the software or something like that) If there's a large influx of bots, my assumption is that there is going to be a banwave soon. I could be wrong about this but that's what my assumption is on the matter. Either way, it is a problem that I hope is addressed soon.

Gosh Darn5/29/2017, 8:03:12 PM11 votes

This is the image I used in my thread when I brought this up. http://imgur.com/NB6x8Bu.jpg

4/5 players were feeding bots. Not just bots that stood under an allied turret, they ran straight down lane because that's the best way to avoid afk detector since they drain some exp before they die. I had double IP boosts up when I was levelling my account and I feel like I should have been refunded for losing games to bullshit like this.

Their wave banning system DOES NOT WORK. When 60% of low level accounts are bots that make games unwinnable if you happen to play support or something, that's a huge fucking problem. Riot has pitiful AI detection in 2017, there's simply no excuse for one of the most played, most profitable games out there to lack bot detection that most MMOs had in 2005.

Lock On5/30/2017, 4:42:08 AM6 votes

Simple solution: after discovering a pattern of behavior in-game, upon next death require a captcha of some sort to be solved (in-game, at fountain) with 2 tries. Failing it suspends the account and boots the player out of the game. In other words, if the game detects your swain farm bot running top and doing nothing but auto'ing, it'll trigger the captcha. This should weed out a ton of bots automatically and allow support to deal with some of the more sophisticated ones or post-game reported cases.

Vraptory5/29/2017, 5:39:08 PM4 votes

I agree, the amount of bots/scripts is disgusting. Getting 2 or 3 bots on your team seems to be common practice. And as of right now I am currently stuck in a game with 4 bots as teammates.. Quite frustrating, since I am only trying to get to lvl 30 before I start PVPing

Pale Pirate5/29/2017, 5:29:47 PM3 votes

Now I'm here, wondering if I find no bots because I have a good W/L on ARAM or because I play at EUNE.

o Eon O5/30/2017, 2:00:32 AM2 votes

I'm leveling up an account right now and the one time I decide to chill and play a Janna match in intermediate bots I get 3 leveling bots and a total new player on my team. The bots straight up ran it down every lane with no items nonstop and after 30 minutes of trying my damndest I couldn't beat a supremely fed Irelia, Amumu, Annie, ect... Out of about 40 summoner rift matches 1 single match didn't have any leveling bots.

13 09 20005/30/2017, 2:15:20 AM2 votes

Usually though, you have no way of being sure until you get to the loading screen and see that they all have the same icon and no keystone mastery.

I've used botting software before and I know for a fact that most bots don't even have to use the client since the software somehow lets them queue without it being open. One way to know if you are playing with bots from the first few seconds of entering the lobby is the chat room. If no one except you has joined the chat room then you are most likely playing with bots.

Wimbleh5/30/2017, 5:07:00 AM2 votes

Gonna have to agree with this. When I was leveling this account I was going to do co-op vs. AI to level 19. But once I started doing them I realized that after over 10 games everyone on my team was a bot except for me. It wasn't even frustrating it was just sad, like literally depressing. So I decided to level in normals instead and that was just awful due to the amount smurfing and low levels queuing with their high level friends.

I cant imagine that this game has an easy time retaining new players with how the leveling experience is. Its either get destroyed by smurfs and unfair low level matchmaking or get a glimpse of Riot's complete neglect for the botting situation in co-op vs. AI games.

DeathBurst5/30/2017, 7:35:10 AM2 votes

I had the problem in ARAM a few months ago, indeed. But I just continued and after some time they disappeared and/or my MMR was high enough to not be matched with them. You should give ARAM another try.

YambrinZ5/30/2017, 9:48:58 AM2 votes

Last time i played bots the other human in the game openly told me that the 2 bots on our team were his, which is why he wanted me to go to a certain lane and group at a certain point. I guess you can do things like that when Riot is notorious for letting people behave in whatever way they want with rare punishments only in extreme cases.

PlanetWarwick5/29/2017, 5:47:16 PM2 votes

its cuz people are selling lv30 unranked smurfs from what i know

SJW GAREN5/29/2017, 7:34:25 PM2 votes

Yeah I mean, it's pretty dumb - I had at least 2 of those leveling bots on my team every single time. Last game I had 4 of them on my team. If you've been playing LoL for a while it's not really a big problem, but it's still annoying. But if you're new it will ruin co-ops for you. Riot should really do something about it.

kasfas5/29/2017, 9:45:02 PM2 votes

Only 4 bots? I'm concerned. There should always be at least 5. RITO, WTF GUYS?!

Iźuku Midoriya5/29/2017, 11:30:13 PM2 votes

I feel im in a custom which has beginner bots against intermediate BUT i cant quit whenever. The only way i ever win is by going full attack speed hybrid on hit and splitting all day (but staying away from mid cause thats where everyone goes)

EDIT:

I feel riot should make a report button as "bot account" or "botting" like how overwatch has it

Frightning5/30/2017, 12:19:13 PM2 votes

I honestly don't have a problem with (player) botters in beg. bots, because I can solo carry that 1v5, and in fact, some of my most ridiculous bot matches have been because of (player) bots extending the length of the match and increasing the value of kills on the bots by me.

Baddap9/1/2017, 11:15:07 PM2 votes

3 months later: still bots everywhere :)

Joseraph5/30/2017, 10:21:38 PM1 votes

Why are you playing CoOp vs. AI then? Just play ARAM if y- Huh.

Chef Draven5/31/2017, 5:03:00 AM1 votes

I've only lost 1 bot game in over 50 and it was due to 3 bots + bad real player. I can carry through most 2-3 bot games EASY. But I agree it's a problem as I watch Netflix while I do my bot games to lvl xp/ip and would rather not have to focus so hard to beat bots because brand/Annie is 12/0 and can stun burst me.

35285419DEL16/15/2017, 12:03:12 PM1 votes

Winning a 1v5 against bots (even intermediate ones) isn't an impossible feat. Go for the squishy bots first and get fed, then shut down the fed enemy bots.

NYC EulersPie7/17/2017, 9:24:56 PM1 votes

Here's a solution why not reset exp for those who are going to be banned from botting that way botters will just be wasting their time for no reason.

Tinamisú7/20/2017, 1:04:15 PM1 votes

I'm reporting every single bot I get matched up with. This is really getting out of hand! People who actually want to level their accounts have to go through hell for it. Why should I be locked out of playing against intermediate bots, which gives a better XP reward per match, just because someone else decided to take the easier path?

Banning these accounts in waves acomplishes absolutely nothing.

scarlt witch11/25/2019, 10:34:09 PM1 votes

honestly though I want to stop playing because its so dumb when the stupid bot feeds and then comes and walks right in front of the turret and then comes back and feeds or walks in front of the turret again. there is know point in playing because there just going to keep feeding and you cant surrender because they always say no. I remember when this games use to be fun were everyone was trying there hardest but know it went down hill and took a turn for the worst I think I might just stop playing. and it really sucks because this was my favor it game. like every time I would come home and just be done with school I would come home and play and just feel happy but know I don't feel that anymore. just irritation and it sucks. it really does suck.

Digielf10/26/2017, 4:06:21 AM1 votes

It's almots impossible to play bot matches right now, it will rarely put you with normal players in your team, only bots that do nothing

Camarada DÁgua11/16/2017, 3:27:42 AM1 votes

6 months later and still bots everywhere ;)

BabyFluff2/3/2018, 9:44:50 AM1 votes

03.02.18

Played aram for two days, sometimes having 3 people as bots in my team or against me, reported them, nothing came out of it. Had an enemy team of 1 player 4 bots etc. Pretty disgusting.

ThePride3/12/2018, 8:41:49 AM1 votes

i just started messing with Co-Op vs AI tonight.... havn't touched it in like 3 years.... 3 games iN? i'm the only player in each game o.o this is weird and still not delt with

DonnieDarkin5/30/2017, 12:24:59 AM1 votes

Well that is what happens when they place shut a huge burden to be able to play ranked on a new account. Its fucking nonsense so people resort to bots.

Just let me fucking PAY Riot for a new level 30 account. Or make it take half as long to get to level 30 playing bots.

Every time I think about Riot, the more I realize I truly despite their existence. I would literally have multiple orgasms in my pants if I woke up and read that Riot went out of business and everyone who worked there is now poor, sick, alone and living on the streets.

magicgeeny20034/13/2019, 5:38:35 PM1 votes

and now its 2019 and I just started playing the game and im disgusted after playing with friends I thought it was ok but when I enter co op vs ai its 4/5 bots...its truly horrifying looks like riot is just another pile of bot farm poo