Why is verbal abuse even reportable when there is a mute button?

5 Dollar Holler·4/20/2019, 2:01:37 PM·2 votes·2,765 views

Yes, I've gotten heated, I've had a couple of 10-game restrictions. I'm not in one now, so this post isn't spawned from an active or recent punishment.

But I honestly don't understand why verbal abuse is punished with the severity that it is. I've had games where my constructive comments were reported and used as justification for my 1-0-game restriction. I'll never forget one game, the worst thing I said was "please hug the tower, you're dying too much, we can win later on just forgo the CS." Boom, someone's feelings got hurt.

But you can mute and make it all go away. On the other hand, I can't press a button and reclaim the ELO that a leaver triggers onto me, I can't press a button and make a teammate who abandons his lane in order to grief - and who declares as much in chat - go away or restart the match. And yet these offenses which impact actual ELO and not just someone's feelings are among the LEAST punished by Riot, because the AI can't detect it unless it's the most egregious of offenses.

18 Comments

MrFawknSunshine4/20/2019, 2:08:35 PM11 votes

cuz there is a mute button that dont give people the right to be verbally abusive to others.

and its against the TOS

rujitra4/20/2019, 2:55:06 PM9 votes

Why is arson a crime when there's fire extinguishers?

Umbral Regent4/20/2019, 2:26:02 PM9 votes

But you can mute and make it all go away.

Question; does muting also prevent the flaming and verbal abuse from transpiring in the first place? Does it immediately nullify the damage that the flame caused that resulted in the mute?

If the answer is "no", then I fail to see a compelling reason for the mute feature to supersede the punishment for verbal abuse.

GatekeeperTDS4/20/2019, 2:57:17 PM6 votes

I've had games where my constructive comments were reported and used as justification for my 1-0-game restriction.

No. No you have not. Post your chat logs.

You will never, ever get punished for things like this -

"Let's play carefully for now, Yi is fed." "We should get dragon when it's up." "Top tower is low, free gold!"

I'm gonna guess your "constructive comments" were more along these lines -

"You're 0/10 stop fucking feeding." "Report (insert person here) for inting." "Don't build ___ item on ___ champion idiot."

I could be wrong, but without your chat logs from the reform card, we have no idea what you said. But again, constructive chat like my first 3 examples will never be punished.

Arcade Lulu4/20/2019, 2:31:31 PM5 votes

If someone has to mute you for being toxic etc The damage has already been done

z63XnLCMwX4/20/2019, 2:59:09 PM5 votes

Why is drunk driving bad when there's insurance?

Inteference4/20/2019, 5:49:18 PM2 votes

Isn't that kind of similiar to saying'Why is physical harm a crime when hospitals exist?'

Xidphel4/20/2019, 10:25:18 PM2 votes

Why is arson a crime when fire extinguishers exist?

ModRowanstar4/21/2019, 10:05:07 AM2 votes

Why is pineapple on pizza a heinous despicable crime when pepperoni exists?

Tuition Fee4/20/2019, 2:35:43 PM1 votes

Why is gun violence bad if we can just ban guns? Because some people just don't care about the rules.