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What's with this trend of people focusing on their scores?

Asterfix··3 votes·260 views

I just played a game with a trundle jungle who would avoid teamfights completely so he wouldn't have deaths and the single fact that he didn't have deaths was the sole explanation given as to why he didn't do teamfights. "i'm the only one without deaths you can't criticize me" or something like that. He was chasing a Sejuani into enemy jungle and we spammed the retreat pings on him until he stopped and came back saying "i have no deaths, i know what i'm doing" but we were spamming them because the other 4 were taking dragon and our top fiora got himself killed. Our yasuo was getting picked off so everybody rushed in to help as trundle sat by the sidelines waiting for, i guess, us to win a 4v5 so he could swoop in and do cleanup and not mess up his score. I get that getting an S rank is super important to people but goddamn, do it on your own time the rest of us are playing to win. Even if i'm the ADC, if there's a fight that will end the game in our favor you can bet your ass i'm diving head first into a death. He spent around 5 minutes in base spamming chat about how the rest of us needed to "do better" and win a 4v5. After the obvious counter-point of "that's stupid" he ran it down toplane and they pushed into the base and ended the game easily.

so what the hell? Why would anyone assume your KDA is the scale of how well you play the game? I used to have a bunch of friends that I played with and our ADC was not great, (only played cait but wasn't good at using her abilities, couldn't last hit, etc) but we were friends and I'd play as her support and bump her score up to the point where she could 1v1 by AAing the enemy team. Did I die alot? sure as fuck did. Did her being 36/3 by the end of the match mean that she was the rank one of low elo ADCs? of course not.

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zPOOPz3 votes

1 person a trend does not make

move on with your life

Asterfix1 votes

{quoted}

1 person a trend does not make

move on with your life

It wasn't 1 person this was the most recent example and fresh in my memory. Are you trying to tell me you've never played a game and somebody throws by overextending during the last few minutes of the game and goes "lol look at our scores?" Because that's basically bronze and silver.

zPOOPz3 votes

I have played since Season 3. I have encounter all manners of trolling, afk-ing, inting and all kind of personalities across all game modes. If I cannot ask nicely for someone to group or help team, then I let it go. I don't let any of those games bother me or hold any grudges.

I will lose 40-50% of my total games played. I accept and embrace that fact. Those trolling, afk, inting, etc. do not bother me as much as some people I've seen. I WILL lose half my games. Those are simply part of the games I will lose one way or the other.

EL HAMSTERO1 votes

people like to score an S

Asterfix1 votes

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people like to score an S

He didn't even get an S, he was like 4/0/1 with no objectives done.

Cynikul1 votes

Also to a degree he is right;

35 deaths vs 18 deaths . The reason their team was winning is they literally had 5100+ more gold in kills, were able to farm more because of less champions on map, and take more objectives. By staying alive and potentially not entering a bad teamfight, he denied some of these advantage alone. Had you done the same, it would have been twice has effective. Had the Fiora done the same, it would have been 3x as effective.

Instead you all had 8.75 deaths between your 4 VS 3.5 deaths vs there 5. What did you expect? Die less, win more. Notice how some of the best players die very, very little.

Asterfix1 votes

{quoted}

Also to a degree he is right;

35 deaths vs 18 deaths . The reason their team was winning is they literally had 5100+ more gold in kills, were able to farm more because of less champions on map, and take more objectives. By staying alive and potentially not entering a bad teamfight, he denied some of these advantage alone. Had you done the same, it would have been twice has effective. Had the Fiora done the same, it would have been 3x as effective.

Instead you all had 8.75 deaths between your 4 VS 3.5 deaths vs there 5. What did you expect? Die less, win more. Notice how some of the best players die very, very little.

That boils down to decision making. Like not chasing when you don't have vision or not trying to force a fight with a team that outpokes you. And He wasn't denying them anything because we had the advantage in the early game, when mid-game hit and we were supposed to be having our first real teamfight mid he just walked back to tower after we were initiated on. He would just simply avoid teamfighting because he didn't want to get a death on his scoreboard. He wasn't really that involved in anything in the game. He wouldn't focus the carries he would slap whoever was closest a few times until he got hit and walk away.

I'm not saying "if you don't fight everytime there's a teamfight you're a bad player" I'm saying if you avoid dying just so you can have that "i told you so" moment when you lose is stupid. Sometimes he would even initiate by throwing up his slow, slapping em a few times and then he walks away while the rest of us are trying to isolate a carry or provide peel, focusing on everything we're supposed to be focusing on and not focusing on where the hell our trundle went during the fight he just leaves to let us 4v5 a fight he initiated on. Because it would have ruined his no death score and that would nullify his "i have no deaths so i'm right" arguments all game.

Cynikul1 votes

You dying a lot as support , despite the mentality that "oh im just the support" is a bad mentality, especially in the current meta. You refresh your gold value so often by getting assists that you're literally feeding their mouths with gold. Try to take more calculated risks.

Asterfix2 votes

{quoted}

You dying a lot as support , despite the mentality that "oh im just the support" is a bad mentality, especially in the current meta. You refresh your gold value so often by getting assists that you're literally feeding their mouths with gold. Try to take more calculated risks.

Okay in no way does this post make any reference to me being a support or me having the mentality as "oh i'm just the support" - The entire team died alot because we kept getting forced into fights that would just end up being 4v5's because our jungler had 0 interest in being apart of fights even if he initiated them. You are assuming so much it's making me feel embarrassed for you.

Cynikul1 votes

I didn't see the game, I'm making simple assumptions based off the data, you're right. But I'm telling you maybe there's more to it just than the way you're thinking about it, hell I'm not even saying you're right or wrong. Rather I'm looking at the bigger picture and saying, generally speaking, and based off the deaths in the game, dying less = good, dying more = bad. Dying less offers less advantages, again, generally speaking. No more, no less. Seriously though, make it an effort to die genuinely as little as possible and you will see your win rate and ranking change drastically.

BroLane1 votes

Some fights are unwinnable the second they start do to poor positioning. Maybe he realized that and figured to cut your teams losses in hope of a later recovery?

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