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Toxic Player Atmosphere - Reported for Being Friendly?

The Friendliest·11/15/2015, 3:04:31 AM·1 votes·1,427 views

EDIT: Can you folks please stop downvoting this thread (specifically the OP) simply because you disagree with my opinion? It hides it and is used to filter non-board related and off-topic threads, is it not? Everyone's entitled to their own feelings, but downvoting the OP when it's not to your personal liking isn't what's up. If I'm wrong, please do let me know.

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One thing I've noticed about the League of Legends community, after playing somewhere after two years, is of how "funny" it is to make use of the report button. Don't like someone because of how they talk? Feeling a little racist? Feel like someone didn't play how you wanted them to? You should Report them! This sort of mindset has caused plenty of good players to get banned for otherwise doing absolutely nothing wrong, and the fact that so many people abuse this sickens me. League of Legends, in some manner, has somehow accrued a reputation for being one of the most toxic player communities in multiplayer history, and it's saddening to imagine that being the truth.

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Every game, I try to be as positively nice as possible. Smiles are infectious, after all, right? Almost consistently, however, I've continually flagged for verbal harassment and unsportsmanlike conduct, and with the new report system, it seems people are even more eager to make use of punishing friendly players. I've done nothing wrong whatsoever - I very seldom curse, I congratulation my teammates and opponents on a good kill or objective, and I try to have fun. For some reason though, people seem to look at being friendly and a conversationalist in the game to be a bad thing. If talking during a game causes you to lose an objective or have an ally killed when you could have done something, of course it is, but when both your team and the enemy team decide to all report you for saying, "Good luck and have fun, everyone! I look forward to playing alongside you all.", there is very blatantly an ulterior problem.

What sincerely worries me, in a selfish light, is that I have an Honorable Opponent ribbon and a Teamwork ribbon, and the idea of losing these items bothers me more than they should. To me, it shows that I am in fact a team player and that I will help provide a satisfactory gameplay no matter the outcome. After feeling I've worked hard to earn these commendations, the idea of possibly having them revoked from me because of sour apples false-flagging me legitimately worries me. Moreso, the idea of being banned and having Riot ignore my plea to become unbanned in assuming I would be lying to testify for myself is unsettling. I very much feel that the report system does not do as it should, where those it does appropriately apply do tend to repeat their actions while those who may mildly tease or even be innocent are punished and question themselves.

I'm not calling for a redesign in the report system or judging Riot for their management of quality control, but I at least want to raise awareness that so many people propagate negative attitudes much more than they should, and that things like "courtesy" and "teamwork" seem to be a rarity (again, much more than they should).

TL;DR - People exploit the report system more than they should and it causes much more grief for those who don't deserve it than to those who legitimately should be reported; much more people of the community seem to be more inclined to insensitivity than wholesome and it all makes me worry very much.

I'd like to start this thread not only to voice my own concerns, but to hear what my fellow players worry about as far as the community is concerned. Also, if you have anyone in particular you've had an enjoyable experience with and would like to recognize them, that's always swell too.

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EDIT: Quoting from another thread, here is another player's helpful notes on retrieving chatlogs and how reports and bans go about.

[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=qhMOBOWT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-15T02:46:35.416+0000)

The notification happens whether the report is valid or not. It just happens when you've been reported in a large percentage of your games.

When you do get punished, the system will have already scanned your chat logs and present you with a reform card that shows your recent chat where you were reported. If the system doesn't find any toxic activity you won't get punished though.

If you do want some of your chat logs before that, you can try submitting a Support Ticket and asking them for it, or asking Lyte on his ask.fm page. The people that can pull logs don't socialize much on the forums. You're more likely to just get general information from an Arbiter here.

23 Comments

NommyPancake11/15/2015, 4:55:03 PM2 votes

I didn't read the whole post, only your last question.

Yes, I have been wrongly reported.

No, I never get banned/chat-restricted.

Someone in this world is gonna hate you naturally for no reason at all, be it in real life or internet.

mOOrdQ8IWc11/15/2015, 3:09:43 AM2 votes

this is too true. there are so many times where my team will stomp pretty hard, not bm or type anything in all chat, and in the ending screen lobby i'll say something like "gg that was fun :D" and end up getting reported for verbal abuse. it's pretty stupid lol

M1CH43L11/15/2015, 3:46:30 AM2 votes

The people who report you for being "too friendly" are sending you a message. They're turning the tables on you. You want this system that can possibly ban someone just because they say something you regard as offensive? Fine, see how you like it. There are actually players, lots of them, that view positive chat as sucking up. "White-Knight syndrome". It sickens them and it's offensive to them. So they report you for it in the same way that you would report them for saying "ggez". Not so fun huh?

But then again, that's what happens when the community demands a system that punishes people for offensive behavior when the term 'offensive' in itself if so subjective. Some people don't like happy-go-lucky suck-ups or rampant positivity.

On the plus side, Riot Games is run by liberals and as such likely won't ever permaban you for being overtly positive. Their automated robot might just because who knows how it works, but if you send them a ticket they'll likely straighten things out for you, so I really wouldn't worry too much. You're probably good as gold.

BakedLotion11/15/2015, 4:37:52 AM2 votes

I play with a few of my friends sometimes, and we like to curse and fuck around with each other. But we NEVER talk or say anything offensive to the other players on the team. What happens within our circle stays within our circle. Like last game. We were premade 3 with 2 other people, Rengar and Ahri. We were messing around with each other and the Rengar joined in. He was cool. Note : we NEVER said anything to ahri other than "please stop complaining every 5 minutes" (I said that). She was raging at us because we were down 3 deaths (in total, not individual meaning our team was 2 kills while they were 5)

The enemy team decided to fuck around like we were doing in all chat, and we were just playing around and cursing at each other (dont worry it was civilized lol) examples : lol gg ez, get rekt, fucking easy game, im challenjour, bronzies, etc.

Then the Ahri decided to get all butthurt for some reason and say in all chat "report my team please they're being really rude." Note: WE NEVER TALKED TO AHRI. WE EVEN TOLD HER WE WERE PREMADE AFTER SHE SAID THAT IN ALL CHAT.

The enemy team even said that we were just joking but nah, Ahri wanted to be a little bitch. So she reported all of us.

And you know what? That report is probably gonna bite me in the ass sooner or later because of Riot's flawed system that only counts frequency of reports. And if they do read my chat logs, they purposely remove everyone else's chat to make it seem like i was cursing out everybody. If i get these types of people in every other game, then I'm probably gonna get banned.

tldr add a button that disables communication with a selected team mate. I don't want you to see what I'm typing to my friends and the enemies anyway.

AdorkableLee11/15/2015, 9:14:53 AM2 votes

I can agree with you. I haven't been punished or get a warning yet about being reported, but MANY people threaten to report me and even tell me "i / we reported you" I am in general a nice person. i just want to play a good fun game regardless of wins or losses ( i dont do rank ) I also dont like talking in the chat much unless someone talks to me or asks me something. But people tend to tell me they will report me just because i play bad(unskilled), trolling or feeding ( because im not as good as others at playing, i have good and bad games and my bad games can be pretty sad.. ) I dont get hurt about them saying they will report me because im unskilled, but i get a bit hurt that though im not saying anything bad back, they mark me as trolling or feeding. ( i do reply sometimes but i dont steam off at them )

I dont know if people really reported me ( i think they do it ) , but i do get reported for just being nice and being neutral. It worries me a lot though especially because of the offenses they want to report me for. I dont know how RIOT cracks down on feeders, but if people report me for that, who knows what will happen, i dont intentionally feed but it worries me.

Deep Terror Nami11/15/2015, 3:12:31 AM1 votes

Back when I started, I got that notification warning once for verbal abuse reports. I stopped doing what I was doing, and poof, haven't had one since. I don't see what's so hard about holding your tongue so you don't get in trouble.

MilfHuntUnitXJ911/15/2015, 4:40:41 AM1 votes

Because of the way the community is, when you act overly friendly you are viewed as being annoying and/or condescending, or worst of all white knighting and that is very irritating to people. It is best to know your place in the game

The Friendliest11/15/2015, 3:09:22 AM1 votes

As I mentioned at the bottom of my post, I would actually like to say a special thank you to the user daughterofchaos - in our first game, a random match, they were quite friendly and were a great help to the team. Alongside everyone else, we were all rearing to group together again to play another game. It's not very often when you meet with complete strangers, hop onto Skype with them and have fun. We went on a few games with our party wagon and called it a night. The next day, we grouped up again and met even more strangers who we were able to win over with affection and fun, and again, we grouped up and had a fun game (even despite losing).

I was having a particularly down day, but their adamant effort to involve me in having fun with strangers more than what I would otherwise do really did a 180 for my mood and it was well worth it. Thanks for all the fun! Looking forward to meeting some of y'all on the Rift too, to whomever is reading this!

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