A Little Survey About Flaming

TheZacStreetBoys·8/14/2018, 4:27:05 PM·13 votes·7,996 views

So... both sides of this argument are always at each others' throats. But, I have a genuine question: for people who say flaming can be "justified," what about flaming HELPS the situation? What I hear most is, "it motivates people to play better." And I dunno, I have a very thick skin and can take flame, but I'm definitely not MOTIVATED by it. So, my question is: is anyone out there motivated by flame? Please, I'd love to discuss this, as "justifying" flaming is a very prominent topic on this board.

Please note, if you do think flaming can be justified, and you DON'T think it's about motivation, please explain. I want to understand this issue, and the thought processes behind it.

63 Comments

Voldymort8/14/2018, 4:40:47 PM21 votes

Flaming motivates me...

... to bother with the report button.

[sg-ezreal]

webstar19958/14/2018, 4:40:23 PM10 votes

it is a culture thing. especially the younger generation, cannot take criticism. constructive or not.....i have told my adc ashe "hey ashe fyi ie is a bad first item...bork is way better for their team comp and just in general" EXACTLY. Ashe types "report eve for flaming plz ty" in all chat. Then her support starts flaming her for that and the game went to shit. It is very annoying how many people think everything is about them and everyone is against them. In Korea people flame hard, but that culture is different. They take it as criticism and learn from it. Also very few players get reported in Korea compared to NA. Even though in Korea they open mid and int if they think the game is unwinnable. Where in NA this is frowned upon "never give up" is bs most of the time and just a waste of time, which sparks a lot of flaming.

Pika Fox8/14/2018, 5:13:04 PM7 votes

Flaming isnt justifyable nor is it about motivation. Its just someone trying to "let off steam" at someone else's expense. You arent trying to motivate anyone, youre just putting your stress on other people.

DrCyanide8/14/2018, 5:28:31 PM4 votes

The only thing Flaming has motivated me to do is ignore the Flamer - even if they might be right about something. They could be flaming someone else on the team, but regardless I'll take everything they try and suggest we do with a grain of salt. I'll second guess that play they're suggesting, or just outright ignore them. If it comes to saving one teammate from a bad situation then the flamer usually ranks lower on my priority list.

The way I see it, if you flame others for their mistakes then you'd better be playing so immaculately you could 1v9. You're getting the report for the flame either way, but you won't be making the game any easier for yourself by flaming.

Arammus8/15/2018, 3:13:32 AM2 votes

flaming motivates me to piss the flamer off even more.

Herlgar8/14/2018, 7:27:26 PM2 votes

There's a difference between flaming and criticism. Criticising to help others play better is fine, flaming to make others feel like shit is not.

Clockwork Mouse8/15/2018, 3:07:53 AM2 votes

People say a lot of funny things when they are flaming. if it wasn't a reportable offence I'd flake flaming more often to get people's moods up. I can't be the only person that thinks listing to a flamer lightens the mood.[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

theChibiTina8/15/2018, 9:21:40 PM2 votes

There is a major difference between flame and constructive criticism that I think a lot of people fail to see. If you just tell me I'm bad or mass ping me without giving any actual advice and continue to do so then I will tilt, be unable to focus, and play worse. However, if you point out what I'm doing wrong and give solid advice on how to improve then I will happily take you up on your advice. Also getting flamed for not following up on someone else's mistake is really annoying.

The Highest Noon8/15/2018, 9:32:36 PM1 votes

Define flaming? I'm assuming you mean general insults. In that case,

Just take a look at sports. Almost every player flames not only their teammates and opponents but EVEN THEMSELVES.

Ask players what they're thinking after making a mistake. You'll get answers like "I'm such a fucking idiot" "I can't believe I did something so stupid" "Am I a dumbass or what?"

Ask players what their teammates tell them after making a mistake and they may say "That was dumb as fuck" "Man, you gotta do better" "Really? And you practiced that HOW many times?"

Ask players what their opponents say and it'll be "My grandma plays better" "Good one" <-Not sure you consider that one flaming? Sarcasm is apparent when said "Gotta get good, scrub" "I'm glad you're on the other team"

Now, in regards to the overall question of "Does this motivate you?" athletes will say "It doesn't matter, because I'm motivated anyway." Maybe I'm just being a generic motivational speaker, but demotivation is a choice. It's a feeling you acknowledge, accept, and agree to. Nobody MAKES you feel bad, you choose to feel bad. Just the same, you can choose not to. So what if someone points out your mistake? Tell yourself you'll never make it again. Someone calls you stupid? Get smarter. Someone calls you ugly? And? That's an opinion. You're only as ugly as you decide you are not according to others. Someone calls you short? You were born that way. They'll get over it. Sometimes literally.

Now, none of this applies to idiotic harassment, merely criticism. Then again, you might consider harassment flaming too.

In that case, that's not motivating at all.

TheCodeisCupCake8/15/2018, 10:25:22 PM1 votes

The account I'm typing on is currently banned. I have a rule. I HAVE NEVER FLAMED ANYONE REGULAR. If I have a 1/20/5 Lucian trying his best, idgaf, wp for trying and not being tilted. But I do flame trolls and inters. Say what you will, but if your ruining my game and the game of three others, I will ruin your mood. I don't even flame _ flamers_ back. I do flame trollers and inters. I don't see how thats seen as bad but thats just me.

Entei8/16/2018, 6:37:35 PM1 votes

Flaming is just tilting and not helping AT ALL. If someone flames me I just mute them. People flame other players because they are upset about those stupid mistakes everyone those. But, there is a big difference between the flamers who flame all game, and the flamers who are extremely tilted they can't hold it back. I talk about the flamers who just want to tilt and get in a argue with people because its fun for them, not about the players who loses 20 times in a row because of those mistakes.

I was one of the "tilted" flamers before 1 year. I lost 10 promos from p3 to p2 because every third game there was an afk or a troller in my team, and after that I lost 20 times and got back to p4. This is the definition of tilt in those kind of moba games. In the game 21, I met a flamer that got me so upset I wanted to punch a wall. At this moment I couldn't hold myself and flamed the ones who flamed me back. I got permanently banned for it, and the flamer in this game is still playing now, flaming other players.

My permanent ban on my first account is 1 years old, this is the account I created after it.

I am now reformed, and I learned this community through leveling up this account before 10 months. This community is a lot more toxic then it was when I leveled up my first account before 6 years.

Flaming will be everywhere you will go, you just need to learn to be not one of the flamers and chill.

Reformed btw

Lunnalia8/18/2018, 2:22:45 AM1 votes

I know it's sound stupid, but when i get flamed, even if it's just a little word like "srsly what are you doing" or "u're bad" i'm not motivated at all, I just feel very bad and sad. And so during the whole game I'm like "i'm the worst if it was someone else they would win instant" and so my plays are even worst...

I'm probably the only one who gets affected this much by flamers, and I know it's totally stupid... Also I don't really like /mute all because if I do that then I imagine everyone trash talk me in my back. And I think communication is super important in LoL, for strategy and calls.

So that's why I only play with friends now and I never play ranked

[sg-soraka]