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ArtOfAttrition··7 votes·4,756 views

I have played every day since i got my chat restriction on July 3rd.

I've had no punishment since, and I have known that if I do not abide by the rules, I would not get my victorious skin, which I really covet.

The ranked rewards are my main drive to play this game. I figured 4 months of consistently playing and NOT shit talking would get me somewhere, but I just dont know what to do.

I played for about 20 hours in the last 48. I played 37 games today trying to honor farm. I talked people up, I did everything I could, sometimes in the face of GREAT and irritating toxicity (which riot has stated that it's bannable to point out that someone is toxic here's proof, this was Raz from player support:)

> You don't need to ask for multiple reports and throwing your team's dirty laundry into all chat will only create more turmoil amongst your team > [5:16] [All] ArtOfAttrition (Tristana): yeah report him > > [5:18] [ALL] ARTOFATTRITION (TRISTANA): HE'S TOXIC > Berating this Ali due to his play > > [10:53] ARTOFATTRITION (TRISTANA): HOW DOES THIS ALI STILL HAVE AN ACCOUNT > Voicing out your frustrations in chat doesn't solve anything nor does it produce the results you want as the sole intent of chat is meant to provide constructive feedback a player can actually act towards

Sure I deserved the chat ban or whatever back in July, I'm not here to deny that, but I played faithfully for 4 months EVERY DAY and controlled my temper...and for what? To get to the last checkpoint to honor level 2? It takes a lot of effort not to react to people who are rude in the game, to not react to those who want to intentionally ruin your fun with their actions (inting/griefing jg mobs/ telling the enemy team your locations)?

So what if they get banned after the game? They still ruined your play time and it leaves you with a negative feeling even if you DIDNT say something. It's hard not to react, but I didn't. I talked people up, I made some new friends along the way, and overall I feel like i am a better person throughout it.

BUT

4 months is a ridiculous amount of time to still not have recovered from a temporary punishment, and that's every DAY play. I cant imagine how long it takes for casual players. I've played this game for 5 years, I've spent well over 1k on my account in that time on loot boxes and skins. Hell I spent 200 at one point while in a deep depression after convincing my self i'd feel happier if I got hextech annie (and then never played her). I dont know of any other game where it takes this long to remedy a temporary punishment.

Well.. Im sorry riot but I dont know if I can really come back after this. I earned my reward, and now I wont get it. I have played hundreds and hundreds of games (usually 3-6 per day, sometimes more if I decide to aram) in those four months, but somehow it's still not enough to recover.

I dont know what I expect to come of this, but I needed to put my feelings about it out there.

I like your system riot, it just takes FAR too long to recover. 1/3rd of the entire year is too much for a temporary punishment.

32 Comments

Voldymort3 votes

It takes a lot of effort not to react to people who are rude in the game

it takes effort to not type?

[sg-lux-2]

ı Sona ı3 votes

{quoted}

it takes effort to not type?

[sg-lux-2]

Your sarcasm is amazing when we see the persistent pattern of flame baited reactions leading to chat restriction/bans, and thus the plethora of posts about it on the forum. This is a game based around communication but its also a game filled with players of varying degrees of self control and maturity. Sadly, one gets "punished for defending themselves" against trolls and flamers under the category of "arguing with teammates." <---Which I think is a very poor category of punishment to have in my opinion.

[sona-playing]

Voldymort2 votes

Your sarcasm is amazing when we see the persistent pattern of flame baited reactions leading to chat restriction/bans, and thus the plethora of posts about it on the forum.

https://media.makeameme.org/created/well-just.jpg

Sadly, one gets "punished for defending themselves" against trolls and flamers under the category of "arguing with teammates."

that's because there's no such thing as defending yourself in chat. Djinn says it better:

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EmiM7pZW,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-06T15:04:31.119+0000)

While I absolutely encourage you to fight back if someone throws a punch at you and it's the best way to deescalate the situation in the safest way for you, **League isn't a fist-fight. **You're not in any danger. All being a jerk back does is mean there are now two jerks, one of which started it and the other of which feels the way to "win" is to be the bigger jerk. You're not in any danger, there's no prize for the biggest jerk, and it just creates a worse environment for everyone in the game.

you want to defend yourself? there's this little function called the mute button

ı Sona ı2 votes

{quoted}

https://media.makeameme.org/created/well-just.jpg

that's because there's no such thing as defending yourself in chat. Djinn says it better:

you want to defend yourself? there's this little function called the mute button

That feeling where defending yourself = you are being a jerk as well. How dare you try to engage a troll to make them amend their trolling ways, punishment for you!

Muting isn't defending yourself, its removing yourself from the conversation, which is a valid option but moot to the current topic.

Voldymort2 votes

How dare you try to engage a troll to make them amend their trolling ways, punishment for you!

isn't that cute.... you think that "engaging the troll" will make him amend his evil ways instead of validating his actions and making things worse...

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/930/075/580.gif

but moot to the current topic.

there's nothing like being in denial...

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

ı Sona ı1 votes

{quoted}

isn't that cute.... you think that "engaging the troll" will make him amend his evil ways instead of validating his actions and making things worse...

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/930/075/580.gif

there's nothing like being in denial...

[zombie-nunu-bummed]

Isn't that cute... you think attempting to engage someone in dialogue to reach a mutual understanding that leads to a group victory is a waste of time and that communication is useless as a whole...

https://gph.is/10Js8ZY

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Voldymort2 votes

you think attempting to engage someone in dialogue to reach a mutual understanding that leads to a group victory is a waste of time

you can't reach a "mutual understanding" wih a troll

i thought it was obvious...

https://i.imgflip.com/gj6xb.jpg

ı Sona ı1 votes

{quoted}

you can't reach a "mutual understanding" wih a troll

i thought it was obvious...

https://i.imgflip.com/gj6xb.jpg

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You don't always win the game, you just try your best.

That is the CORE of League of Legends. Not always winning, trying your best.

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Voldymort1 votes

well that came out of left field...

DERM0L1 votes

thats how i got my 10 day chat ban in flex, 4 man flamed me and i defended myself

Xidphel1 votes

It takes a lot of effort to mute?[sg-lux-2]

Zero Drive2 votes

Yup the recovery time is ridiculous. I've played as long as you have on my main and knowing a 5 game chat restriction from 2 months ago is going to keep me from rewards, for the first time in 5 years, really had my irritated. Seriously considering just playing on one of my newer accounts and seeing how much of the money I sunk into it that I can get back.

ModPeriscope2 votes

So what honor level did you end at? And where did you start (post punishment)?

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

He says he's currently H1 C3 and the chat restrict was on July 3rd. Assuming it was only 10 games it was probably done that day or in the following few days (so let's say July 5th.)
4 full months to recover 1 honor level doesn't sound correct to me. I believe there's a limit on it but I'm pretty sure you can get a checkpoint every 2 weeks. Rioters have also stated its moreso about not getting valid reports than it is getting honors. Maybe OP was more toxic than they thought?
(It could also be that this was their second chat restrict meaning they were set to honor 0. If this is the case and the 2 week cap per checkpoint is accurate then they would've been on a very tight schedule to get back to honor 2 on time and would've had to hit pretty much every checkpoint on time.)

Upgrades2 votes

Took me 6 months to get from honor level 0 to 3, playing everyday for 10+ games

Kei1432 votes

You probably weren't acting as positively as you think.

Fusious1 votes

You should of messaged riot support... I did in a situation where I felt something was unfair and they were on top of it

Arkadaos1 votes

I'm sorry for you and probably the guys you reported aren't even banned bevause it's way easier for them to ban people that write in chat instead of trolling

ChiefDays1 votes

The forums are filled with people who worship Riot moderation so I doubt you'll get any sympathy here but hey, then there's this, by just simply saying "Report Player(X)" is a capital offense, no matter if the player you're trying to report is inting and trolling: you're harassing them, like how could you tell people to report a troller? Trollers have feelings too!! Just let the trollers ruin your game, let the people flame you and don't say anything back because, you know, you'd be very toxic. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

z14GaKI7TO1 votes

So Rioters have stated previously that going up honor levels is more about not getting valid reports than it is getting honors. I also believe that there's a cap of 1 checkpoint every 2 weeks meaning if you were as behaved and played as consistently as you stated you should've been honor 2 again as early as September. You must've gotten many more valid reports than you expected.
Also was this your first or second chat restriction (aka did you drop to honor 1 or honor 0?)
If you dropped to honor 0 then 4 months would put you on a very tight schedule assuming the 2 week limit per checkpoint is correct.

Danksley1 votes

Honor system is a meme. You should've used the exploit. I got punished in June and just made it back to H1 checkpoint 3 but work and school were super busy for me since then so I was only getting maybe 10-15 games in per week.

I ended up just buying my way to victorious orianna with the exploit after support confirmed there will be no repercussions. Just means I'm stuck on LAN for most of preseason. Sad thing is I asked support and they said I'm progressing honor steadily without getting hidden locks which means I'm doing better at the mentality game.

ICattyI1 votes

Happened the same to me. It's ridiculous. I was in a normal draft where I was adc and someone that was playing with 2 asked me for the role so I would go jungle. I said i couldn't jungle and then they locked in 3 troll picks with ghost cleanse and followed me the entire game because it was for level up only and they didn't care. They got no punishment as far as I'm aware and I got 10 games chat ban and honor dropped because I called them virgins (the only reason they did that to me I'm pretty sure is my IGN) and said they were retards. On a 20 minute game saying those 2 words doesn't really seem fit to get banned, but the robot replying to my ticket said the same thing he says to everyone "you shouldn't insult them, just report them after". I'm pretty sure there's a mute button. But because of that game i got locked of Clash and Honor rewards now. Same stuff, honor 1 last checkpoint. Pretty sure it's a joke at this point. The amount of people that leveled up honor on November 6th was huge. And they say it's not time locked.

Jackin ur lawn1 votes

Expecting people to be completely quiet when they are consistently faced with verbally abusive people is fucked up. You're basically blaming the victim because they aren't docile and quiet like you like them to be.

Hexs Fortune1 votes
Tahngarthor1 votes

{quoted}

I have played every day since i got my chat restriction on July 3rd.

I've had no punishment since, and I have known that if I do not abide by the rules, I would not get my victorious skin, which I really covet.

The ranked rewards are my main drive to play this game. I figured 4 months of consistently playing and NOT shit talking would get me somewhere, but I just dont know what to do.

I played for about 20 hours in the last 48. I played 37 games today trying to honor farm. I talked people up, I did everything I could, sometimes in the face of GREAT and irritating toxicity (which riot has stated that it's bannable to point out that someone is toxic here's proof, this was Raz from player support:)

You don't need to ask for multiple reports and throwing your team's dirty laundry into all chat will only create more turmoil amongst your team [5:16] [All] ArtOfAttrition (Tristana): yeah report him

[5:18] [ALL] ARTOFATTRITION (TRISTANA): HE'S TOXIC Berating this Ali due to his play

[10:53] ARTOFATTRITION (TRISTANA): HOW DOES THIS ALI STILL HAVE AN ACCOUNT Voicing out your frustrations in chat doesn't solve anything nor does it produce the results you want as the sole intent of chat is meant to provide constructive feedback a player can actually act towards

Sure I deserved the chat ban or whatever back in July, I'm not here to deny that, but I played faithfully for 4 months EVERY DAY and controlled my temper...and for what? To get to the last checkpoint to honor level 2? It takes a lot of effort not to react to people who are rude in the game, to not react to those who want to intentionally ruin your fun with their actions (inting/griefing jg mobs/ telling the enemy team your locations)?

So what if they get banned after the game? They still ruined your play time and it leaves you with a negative feeling even if you DIDNT say something. It's hard not to react, but I didn't. I talked people up, I made some new friends along the way, and overall I feel like i am a better person throughout it.

BUT

4 months is a ridiculous amount of time to still not have recovered from a temporary punishment, and that's every DAY play. I cant imagine how long it takes for casual players. I've played this game for 5 years, I've spent well over 1k on my account in that time on loot boxes and skins. Hell I spent 200 at one point while in a deep depression after convincing my self i'd feel happier if I got hextech annie (and then never played her). I dont know of any other game where it takes this long to remedy a temporary punishment.

Well.. Im sorry riot but I dont know if I can really come back after this. I earned my reward, and now I wont get it. I have played hundreds and hundreds of games (usually 3-6 per day, sometimes more if I decide to aram) in those four months, but somehow it's still not enough to recover.

I dont know what I expect to come of this, but I needed to put my feelings about it out there.

I like your system riot, it just takes FAR too long to recover. 1/3rd of the entire year is too much for a temporary punishment.

I got a chat restriction early in the season. I honestly deserved it, and ive learned to just quickly mute anyone who's being a jerk so I don't get caught up in it. It didn't take me 4 months to get back to honor 2 from honor 1. Were you coming back from honor 0? Which only happens if you've been restricted before or do something more serious. Did you often recieve honors from non premade teammates?

Idk, it just seems strange that its taken you much longer to come back from a fall than it did for me, and I don't play as much as you seem to.

The good news is, as long as you've only had a chat restriction, Riot is granting you extra time to regain Honor 2, as noted above by other posters.

LeBlanc Jameś1 votes

Welcome to my world :)

I said the wrong thing to the enemy team in an ARAM and paid dearly lol.

Bye Bye rewards ;) No way to recover. I went hard and still only made it to the final checkpoint.

LeiRaion1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/TGYs0hwO-2018-end-of-season-rewards-and-honor

This would be of interest to you OP.

If all you have received is a chat restriction you actually have until Feb. to get back to honor 2.

KazaJhodo1 votes

Yeah it just doesn't come back, fuck em.

Fake Korëan1 votes

I know the feeling bruh,same here. I have received 6 permabans (2 for flaming,1 for "unallowed party programs" and other 3 for "griefing") yet am still positive towards rito and its okay if i wont receive rewards.. Im probably on edge now cause i think that next ban is gonna be last (ID) so am trying to be "better". For me its common that i wont probably ever receive rewards,even tho they are probably the only thing that encourages me to be better and play.

Faneseeker1 votes

If it was easy most people would just yoyo it up and down for the rewards. No thx.

If you are just bottling resentment suppose to truly understanding the reason behind your ban then you still have some miles to go.

Hint, spend sometime on behaviour board and your game experience improves as you start to understand where these people, or You, come from.

Understanding is the beginning to all solutions.

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