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What do you do when . . . (Long, but important)

OhWanderer·10/7/2016, 4:41:30 AM·1 votes·834 views

  1. Your jungler is feeding your lane and he wont stop (like 2 kills and red buff to an enemy adc laner 5 minutes in and then tries to say he didnt feed)

  2. Your support is not taking measures to be in lane the same time you are (ie not recalling with you, when you die and/or if they have low manna, etc.)

  3. You have been counter picked (ie. a braum supp gets picked into you as jhin adc)

and any other situation like that, I just wanna know, because I feel like these are issues that are causing people that might normally stay off the ban-dar (radar of banningness) to get punished. Also, and this is for no personal reason or anything as I am not being punished, but wouldnt it be advantageous to Riot to allow players to redeem themselves a bit if they have been suspended or something? Like make it so that they work to get their record clear(er?) so that it means more. You know like teach them a lesson sort of thing like my parents always used to say, "You will care more when you have to work for it" (referring to my or my brothers carelessness/etc.) . I personally feel like it puts people more on edge the first time they get seriously punished because they are either conflicted about whose fault it is (when usually the point is they could have been less negative) or upset because they think Riot hates them now. The latter being fueled by the fact that there is no way to get forgiveness from Riot. I never post any kind of question like this because I always am afraid that I am going to get summoner 11 again. The last time I made a post, going back over it I realize I wasnt as contained and positive as I thought I was when I wrote it, trying to make an honest suggestion, and Riot Rhojin kind of publicly put my chat logs on the boards and suspended me (which didnt help my self esteem at all considering I honestly was trying to help despite my lack of self containment). Now I go into games more tense because I dont know how team mates are going to react and I dont know how my communication is going to come across to them. I could just not communicate to them and therefore eliminate the problem, but that makes me feel like its hurting more than helping. There are situations like #1 above where I know I should be winning my lane in that situation normally if said jung wasnt feeding, I dont know how to react and I want to say something (this usually happens and bites me in the butt 90% of the time) but I dont at the same time want to say anything and hope that he corrects himself and we can keep going. I go into games feeling that neither Riot or the community wants me to play, but I really want to play and get out of my elo so that I can get people who are more interesting ( strategically ) and harder to play against. I feel that maybe putting forth an effort in the community to show that Riot will forgive you if you can learn a lesson, or just an effort to affect the mentality of the community as a whole would help the game greatly. There are things like the champ select that do not help this situation. For instance, this Champ select currently makes every decision and idea about it personal (i.e. if the system was more open so that everyone on your team knew the champions you can play in said role and the average KDA they would know what to expect and how to react to/play with you). The current one does not do a good job of encouraging (forcing sometimes) you to work with your team directly and instead forces people to have to make an assumption about their team mates one way or another. There are worries about people who would just troll or be dicks and etc. but there are ways to deal with this that are simple. I digress. I hope that you can understand where I am coming from.

11 Comments

Kitty Cat Tosha10/7/2016, 7:43:12 AM4 votes

  1. The jungler obviously tried to rectify his first mistake. It did not work out. Tough luck. You telling him to "stop feed" won't help. Either give him an action plan ("wait until I am 6 and we'll get him") or say "I'm fine at top, try to help mid".

  2. The support is not your personal slave that should do what you do. As support, I often stay alone in lane to soak up a little bit more xp, protect the turret or get a few cs. There is no rule stating the support should be near the adc at all times.

  3. Play safe or trust that personal skill counts for more than counterpicking and that your personal skill is greater than your opponent.

Desolas Arterius10/7/2016, 3:29:37 PM1 votes

Answer: You don't need to do anything.

Mistakes happen in games, that is to be expected. Even in higher elos people will make dumb decisions or mess up badly. This doesn't mean you need an answer to it. You wont win every game because human beings are not perfect. None of us can play expertly 100% of the time.

You also don't need to say anything either. Pointing out their mistakes doesn't help considering emotion and intent is extremely difficult to perceive over chat. You can try to say neutral things, such as "I'm okay. Help mid" or something purely stating a game mechanic.

When you stop stressing about how your team is doing, and focus on your own play and mechanics, then you'll do better and feel better. If you blow up on your teammates for messing up, you'll either get punished or make yourself lose more often since you create negative environments. This is still a team game however, so while you do need to focus on your own mechanics and play, you still need to realize your team can help you win. Keeping a positive environment and encouraging good plays help increase your chances of winning. But you don't need to babysit every lane or command them to do what you think should be done. Focus on yourself, but encourage your team as well.

If you do want to do something about those scenarios, then I can give a few suggestions from what I've seen work.

  1. Communicate to your jungler that you don't need help in your lane. Do this politely so you don't cause any emotions to flare up. Your jungler could be upset over his mistakes and giving up kills, so don't make matters worse. A simple "You might need to help Mid/Bot/Top, I'll be okay on my own" can help give them an idea of trying to assist other lanes. Pings help, but 1-2 Back-Off pings is fine. Don't spam, and don't be rude.

  2. Your support might have a strategy on their own, so there is no reason to constantly expect them to back when you do. If you feel they should, a simple "You can B if you need to" works. If not, then don't worry about it so much. You still need to focus on yourself, and constantly bugging the support to back when you want to isn't helpful for yourself or anyone else on the team.

  3. There's no reason at all to stress about this. Counter picks will only beat you if you have little to no experience on your champion. A player who mains Jhin can easily beat someone who's counter picking with Braum that has no experience on that champ. If you get tilted over someone counter-picking, then you need to calm down and realize this is part of the game. You need to trust in your own skill and learn how to beat out your natural counters. That can actually help you move up in the ranks as well.

I hope that helps.

MUSHROOM MIDGET10/7/2016, 3:42:27 PM1 votes

what do you do when a teammate is calling you all sorts of nasty names and spam pinging you? do you guys really still help them win?

i know we are supposed to, but it feels very wrong. all of my instincts say this asshole deserves to lose.