What is considered intentionally feeding?

Asterfix··1 votes·435 views

Because my last game the enemy team had baron and our ADC was dead. Our kled ran around to the back and ultied in while our trundle ran down the front. Excessive pings to back were made, typed out it was a 4v5 and they had baron. Does this count?

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Chermorg4 votes

Making a bad play is not intentionally feeding unless you can prove that the player did it with the intent of dying to the enemy team without any intent of making gain on the plays.

Players are not required to listen to your pings. Players are allowed to have crappy metaplay. Neither of those is intentional feeding unless they are intentionally doing those things in an attempt to feed the enemy team.

Asterfix1 votes

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Making a bad play is not intentionally feeding unless you can prove that the player did it with the intent of dying to the enemy team without any intent of making gain on the plays.

Players are not required to listen to your pings. Players are allowed to have crappy metaplay. Neither of those is intentional feeding unless they are intentionally doing those things in an attempt to feed the enemy team.

How do you prove it wasn't intentional? Maybe they just wanted the game to end quicker so they died hoping the rest of us would follow suit and run it down with them? They were a duo, i forgot to mention that, who kept having voice chat problems (in-game chat references them trying to reconnect)

Onecimus2 votes

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How do you prove it wasn't intentional? Maybe they just wanted the game to end quicker so they died hoping the rest of us would follow suit and run it down with them? They were a duo, i forgot to mention that, who kept having voice chat problems (in-game chat references them trying to reconnect)

The burden isn't on anyone to prove that it wasn't intentional. They are assumed innocent. Otherwise we would assume every bad play was inting. And that's just not true, despite what some people in game will say. :p

Chermorg6 votes

Just as in the Justice system, the burden of proof is the on the side desiring a punishment.

It is not his job to prove it wasn't intentional. It is Riot's (and/or by extension the player reporting's) job to prove it was intentional.

If you let anyone claim "hey that guy was inting make him prove he wasn't" then you'd have a lot of players banned simply because they were too lazy or too tired of shit to argue they weren't inting - even if they weren't inting. As an example, and I don't like doing this, there was a 15 minute long 0/5/0 Nami game you played a while back where you die outside turret range multiple times, appear not to have finished your quest for wards on the item, bought refillable potion as a squishy support, bought boots of swiftness as your second item... I could pull out a lot of stats. Prove you weren't inting in that game.

Now, I don't actually want you to do that. I don't even think you were inting that game. But let's say your teammate did. Would you have to sit there proving you weren't inting? What if I said your explanation wasn't good enough? Would you feel comfortable getting banned for that game because you couldn't "prove it good enough"?

Telephone Booth1 votes

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Just as in the Justice system, the burden of proof is the on the side desiring a punishment.

It is not his job to prove it wasn't intentional. It is Riot's (and/or by extension the player reporting's) job to prove it was intentional.

If you let anyone claim "hey that guy was inting make him prove he wasn't" then you'd have a lot of players banned simply because they were too lazy or too tired of shit to argue they weren't inting - even if they weren't inting. As an example, and I don't like doing this, there was a 15 minute long 0/5/0 Nami game you played a while back where you die outside turret range multiple times, appear not to have finished your quest for wards on the item, bought refillable potion as a squishy support, bought boots of swiftness as your second item... I could pull out a lot of stats. Prove you weren't inting in that game.

Now, I don't actually want you to do that. I don't even think you were inting that game. But let's say your teammate did. Would you have to sit there proving you weren't inting? What if I said your explanation wasn't good enough? Would you feel comfortable getting banned for that game because you couldn't "prove it good enough"?

Lol my favorite post by you.

AeroWaffle4 votes

What is considered intentionally feeding?

Feeding intentionally. It's the intention that makes it against the rules and that's the problem, it's often hard to prove intent beyond a reasonable doubt. Making a cruddy play and ignoring teammates is not enough to prove intent.

Kei1432 votes

nope.

probably just a stupidly bad call.

Automated Riven2 votes

I mean, if you have even a basic understanding of the word 'intentional' then it kinda answers your question.

Telephone Booth2 votes

Hard to say just from that. Sounds more like a bad idea.

Onecimus1 votes

Below plat those kinds of bad calls are fairly common. It could have been any number of things. Whether the player wasn't paying attention (tunnel vision), or they thought they saw an opportunity no one else did (this happens all the time), or maybe he just wasn't putting all the pieces of a poor plan together.

Altogether, I would say no. It is a player learning from his mistakes.

KVbqbFsC8e1 votes

Pretty much running down a lane with mobi boots. Everything else is religiously defended as "just a bad game".

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