Need help after 2 week suspension

kid intellect·9/29/2018, 5:10:16 PM·3 votes·4,586 views

To be completely honest, I can see why I was suspended. Not here to whine and ask for forgiveness, but asking for help on how to change and become a better person and a better part of the community. I have troubles controlling my ego(lmao) when someone goes to start pouncing on me in chat. What would you guys recommend I could do to become a better player? I don't wanna mute all chat, cause I sometimes have a convo with the enemy. Also, how thin is the ice im standing on? I've received multiple chat restrictions and always brushed them off as nothing, but this is the rude awakening I've deserved. Will one report insta-ban me? When does the period of thin ice end? Appreciate any sort of help.Gnar

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Tzi9/29/2018, 6:05:52 PM6 votes

This is a LONG READ but it actually has a TON in info so read!

In any case - I use this scenario a lot and it helps provide logic: Imagine this: Some random crackhead is yelling at you and 8 other people happen to be nearby. This dude is just spouting all kinds of stuff about you that you know isn't true: That YOU'RE the crackhead and you're a terrible person etc, and anyone that tries to defend you he just turns on them too. If this crackhead is spouting literally nothing and you know it's not true, are you going to sit there and try to defend yourself from him or are you just going to ignore him and continue about your day?

You decide to defend yourself from this dude literally living from a cardboard box. The crackhead was just commenting on how you can't dress or something, but you escalate it and say you hope the crackhead's mother comes and disowns him or that he commits suicide, etc. Now YOU look like the crackhead to passerbys. The 8 other people are trying to enjoy their day but are bothered by you both. They haven't been paying attention, so all they see and hear are two crackheads arguing and they call the police. You get punished and go to jail.

It's the same thing in league. Most players don't know or care what's going on between you and X. They just want to enjoy their game in peace and not be brought into it, so you BOTH get reported and punished accordingly. But it all could've been avoided if you'd just let weirdos be weirdos and let him yell until he tires himself out because no one is listening.

  1. If you're having trouble keeping calm in normal games, remember that normal games are NOT ranked games and your performance as well as what other people think of it does not matter. Most people prefer you save your troll builds or picks for your premades but no one is going to stop you. If you don't have friends, item 3070 find some people on the league subreddit or something! Most people there want some friends, too. But I mean, no one can stop you if you don't want to build or play traditionally, just keep it out of ranked, & you just have to learn to not care that they're pressed about it. I play Nashor's Tooth on Sona and Ori all the time, or I go Ori support sometimes because it's fun. Now, I'm extremely good at Sona & Ori so I use that as well, lol. I wouldn't play Manamune J4 when I've literally never in my 4 years of league played J4 in any game-mode. You CANNOT get reported for building off-meta OR playing bad; ONLY if riot believes you truly are inting and you run Reksai Mid with Ghost & Cleanse. Remember that.

  2. In addition to that, playing league can be rough! When I got my 5 game chat restriction back in June, it was because I had dedicated the day to grinding and I was frustrated that after playing like 8+ games I had only won like two of them I think? League gets frustrating, I know! If you feel yourself getting overwhelmed just get up and do something else for like 20-30 minutes. Take a shower, read another chapter of a book, make some cookies or cook an elaborate meal, spend time with your pets (MORE than just taking them for a walk), or go play a single player game that will make you more relaxed. My go-tos are Stardew Valley, Civ 5, Wow, or Sims. Playing back to back games, especially when it isn't going how you want it to, will only make you play worse and will make you more trigger happy when it comes to lashing out in chat.

  3. Think about what you're typing. Is it coming from a place of anger? Don't hit enter. Did you have to double think about whether you'd get banned for saying it? Don't hit enter. Is it constructive? If not, Don't hit enter If someone said it to YOU, would YOU get annoyed/mad/frustrated? If so, don't hit enter. Training yourself to NOT immediately go to chat for everything (even to type SLSJDKALDJ if you died) is the key to not ever saying anything toxic. If you read it and think "Theyre gonna get so mad at this XDDDD" don't send it.

  4. Use chat to be a better person. If riot pulled up ANY of my chat logs even prior to my ban I use chat very sparingly ONLY to type what can't be easily communicated through pings. Things like ambushing in bush, or who should split, or if we should bait baron instead of trying to commit, etc. And all of those can be communicated quickly and precisely. Ping OMW, general arrow ping @ river bush "Ambush? I'll R Soraka", Team pinging Baron - Click Amumu portrait so it shows he's still dead for 5 more seconds in chat "Wait mumu we need his ult".

  5. Your account is on VERY THIN ICE. Any report received against your account deemed probable WILL result in a permanent ban. The period for this can go on for as long as it needs to, and will be longer if you decide to not play as your account status won't decay or anything. It will stay where it is until you get back. Even things as ""Minor"" as saying "use your brain" or something COULD potentially get you banned so like I said, train yourself to not immediately jump on your keyboard anything anything happens. If anyone shows ANY hint of toxicity (? Pings if you die, "WTF (your champion)", or starts being cocky to the enemy team or toxic to anyone else on your team, mute them. Odds are they'll turn it on you when they get the chance and at this point you do NOT want to get it ANY sort of argument. I wouldn't even do playful banter with the enemy; most people don't care and just want to play and the risk is not worth losing hundreds of dollars in RP.

Anyways, TL;DR

  1. Don't be upset if you're doing bad in normal games. They don't count for anything. Just do your best and try to win. Don't troll build in ranked and if someone is doing it to you, consider reporting it to riot, but just be aware you can't get banned solely on troll building. If you want friends, check out league-related subreddits. Most people want groups to run missions with, or some people want to look cool with matching skins!
  2. If you find yourself getting frustrated faster in games, just take a break from not only league but ALL MMO type games. No Overwatch, Rainbow 6 Siege, Arma, none of that. Play more single player based relax games, cook a meal that will take more than 20 minutes or hit up 123movies and watch something.
  3. Classic Rule: Treat others the way you want to be treated. If you read what you say and you think that YOU'D get mad if someone said it to YOU, it wont help the team. Keep it constructive, recommend builds or ways they can survive in lane. If they don't want to listen they're only hindering their own progress.
  4. Again, classic rule. Use chat for small concise messages that CANNOT be communicated or explained throroughly with pings. In average I have 5-10 lines of chat in any given game, usually closer to 5. Don't use chat unless you need to, or if you really want to be positive and give GJs to people where its deserved.
  5. THINK THINK THINK about that you say or you WILL be banned, and it will be no one else's fault but your own.

[slayer-jinx-wink] It's a long read but I hope it helps!

Kei1439/29/2018, 7:12:28 PM2 votes

You don't need to /muteall, you just need to mute the toxic. Chances are he won't have anything useful to say anyways.

How thin is the ice? Very thin in the first few games, to the point that even ggez (one of the mildest form of unsportsmanlike conduct) can get you punished.

Over games played and showing reformed behavior, the ice thickens and the system because a little bit more tolerance towards your behavior. You can have minor slip ups here and there and not get punished. Eventually, if you play enough games while showing reformed behavior, you will drop a punishment tier and your account will no longer be on thin ice anymore.

Typically it takes 3 months of gameplay to drop a punishment tier.

Think about the consequences when you type. Is flaming the dude going to be more worth than loosing your account?

ModPrandine9/29/2018, 5:35:09 PM2 votes

Here are some tips I have to share for you.

  • You don't have to /muteall at the start of a match. Instead you can just mute the trouble-makers when they pop up and continue to chat with others, including the enemy team.
  • If you must rage then do so at the screen instead of in chat. You could also just punch a pillow or a bed or squeeze a stress ball or something. Doing these allows you to vent your frustrations without compromising your teams chances of success.
  • In terms of thin ice any sort of punishable behavior will result in a permaban. That said, if you show consistently good behavior in your games then it is possible to improve your accounts standing to the point where the next punishment won't be a permaban, but a lesser punishment.
  • Remember that reports only flag a game for review, which is then thrown out if no punish worthy behavior is found. Because of this there is no reason to ask or call for reports.
kid intellect9/29/2018, 5:42:09 PM2 votes

Hey one more thing, I recently bought the worlds pass just before this. Will I still get the full value, and am I eligible for end of season rewards? thank you

VindicatorOFThey9/29/2018, 5:33:23 PM2 votes

You are standing on really thin ice o_o

If i were you i would be more careful in the future .

Do you like cats :o ?

Imperial Pandaa9/29/2018, 5:33:56 PM2 votes

A valid report that may result in a chat restriction would break the proverbial ice.

There is no set length for how long the ice will be thin. Varies per player and their behavior.

As for helping prevent a valid report/being better:

-Speak out loud instead of typing. Like content creators and streamers, you cannot be punished for things verbally said aloud. (Unless trying to go to a Riot sponsered event like Scouting Grounds).

-Only type positive or tactical messages. Basically here is a thing that some teachers use. THINK before you speak; T Is it True? H Is it Helpful? I is it Inspiring? N is it Necessary? K is it Kind?

If the answer is "No" for anything after T, then you probably shouldn't say it. Example : "Pandaa is trolling/feeding/fat/etc." It might be true, but everything after is no. Answers may have N/A when tactic based

-Mute players individually. You don't have to mute all. If the problem is only 1 person, mute them and play on. If you feel it warrants a report, report post game. DO NOT ask others to report.

Danksley10/3/2018, 2:39:33 PM1 votes

You can be as toxic as you want in league, you just can't use overtly toxic language. This does not mean you should act this way but it does mean you don't have to quit cold turkey. Positivity can be sarcastic and IFS can't tell. "Gj" and "ty" after a teammate walks into your lane and dies is toxic but not punishable for e.x. same with intentionally letting a flamer die.

Phrases like "keep it up team" can be really toxic, but the honor system considers it positivity regardless of context, same w. IFS. Basically you need to only use positive language. If you fell the need to be toxic then find a positive phrase that works for the situation. I actually rarely do this myself anymore. Think of it like nicotine patches for flaming.

ModPeriscope9/29/2018, 6:41:24 PM1 votes

Not gonna rehash what everyone else is saying, but you're on the right track just by coming here and asking for help. Best of luck!

Faaantaaa9/30/2018, 1:15:43 AM1 votes

Hey buddy, I know that feeling. It happened to me too. I think you should make another account and try too cool off on that one, just in case your hands move faster than your thoughts. That's what I did, because I didn't want a perma ban!

Wilyum9/30/2018, 3:40:05 AM1 votes

I have had like 4 chat restrictions now maybe a ban or two I can't remember but the best advice is just to mute /all chat. Then once in game mute your team. I liked to do the whole banter back and forth but it's not worth reading someone's toxic comments and being set off.
I know I get set off easily so I just avoid it. Literally every game I play unmuted has someone toxic who says something, and rarely do people say anything productive