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Chats Bans and Perma bans insights (from a now permabanned old player who deserved it)

Taliyah Tequila·1/28/2020, 5:37:27 PM·2 votes·2,165 views

So, to start with the account i'm currently posting with (which i created in late s3 and was my main account), just got permanantly banned this week, most likely for toxicity (specifically, i flamed other players a lot in the last few months and swore even more), it was deserved and i'm jsut gonna point out some of the things that i think deserve a mention about how i ended that way.

  • There are steps before a perma ban that can let you know you should try to stop being toxic in chat: you first get a 1 day chat ban, and it gets longer and longer until a 2 weeks ban, after the 2 weeks ban you get a 1 or 2 day ban (i don't remember well), followed by a 2 weeks ban if i remember right and then you are banned forever. You will receive chat logs for each of those.

  • All of the other accounts on the same Email, which i'm using too, didn't get banned. I can also still use my riot account Taliyah Tequila, just not play league with it (i still play runeterra's beta, as an exemple)

  • I realised halfway trough my journey to getting that ban that most of the time you can be insanely toxic as long as you keep yourself from using trigger words.

  • Players in league are more toxic now than they where back when i started playing, they just aren't as obvious. You get players selling their items, dying on accident multiple times at very bad moments, wasting important cooldowns and abusing pings and emotes.

Things that i think deserved to be looked at:

  • In game bans for chat usage. I think it doesn't make sense that you get banned from the game instead of the chat.

  • chat bans lasting for a number of days, those would be, in my opinion, much more impactfull if they lasted for a number of games.

  • Not every kind of toxicity is punished, most of the time you'll only get permanently banned if you go all out. I've played this game for over 5 years and was always a bit toxic and never got any meaningful bans. what pushed me toward the permaban is simply that i stopped carring about which words i used, but said the same things. I've also inted a couple games this year, i was doing it before too, only difference is that this time i wasn't hiding it in any way, it only got me banned 1 time as far as i remember, so this is really a big point that should be looked at in my opinion.

  • Messages in the client chat aren't reportable.

  • There is a big lack of communication for bans, which becomes a real issue when someone has put money into the game, i personally think it's a lack of respect from riot games to the players.

  • I don't think the system encourages players not to be toxic, as it did the opposite for me. I think i played league for about 6 years in total, and toxicity always was the thing that annoyed me the most. I was toxic only to players who i felt where toxic too, and for me that's about 30% of league players.

So i hope some of you take the time to read this, i'm not asking to get my account back, as i said above i was expecting to get perma'ed eventually and i just went trough because i was unhappy with the whole system around it. I hope this help solve some of the issues i had with unpunished toxicity.

** GL HF, don't play when tilted**
Taliyah

4 Comments

Kuthillick1/28/2020, 7:31:15 PM3 votes

Sorry about your account. A couple things though (I'm looking at your second set of bullet points mostly)

  1. Riot has tried indefinite chat bans instead of permanent bans. They found that players that players with permanent chat bans found other ways to grief and that simply lead to more gameplay violations.

  2. If I remember correctly, chat bans are 10 game, 25 game restrictions while suspensions from actually playing are 14-day or permanent.

  3. If you have enough legitimate infractions over a short period of time, that can still lead to punishments up to and including permanent bans. Certain words or phrases are more likely to carry with them escalated punishments though. Also - harsher language may increase the likelihood that you do get reported. Flaming while using words that do not have as harsh of a connotation may generate less player-submitted reports than using harsher language, even if your message is practically the same.

  4. They aren't reportable directly from the client but users can still take screenshots and submit tickets. While I don't know how often this is punished, it is still reportable.

  5. I agree on this. There needs to be more transparency on bans and more open channels for questions regarding them. This goes for everyone, not just the people that spend money. Money should have nothing to do with the punishment system.

  6. I mean... I feel like not being a dick is a pretty good reason to not be toxic. I didn't know Riot had to implement a specific system to encourage people to be decent people. Toxicity to toxic people is still toxicity and simply perpetuates the issue.