What Do I do when a team mate is discourage from continuing to play in a match?

Zimmy·3/24/2016, 8:57:22 PM·3 votes·1,137 views

Basically I was playing support and the game was going really good. Mid game we had towers and inhibs on the enemy. Then we had a really bad team fight at dragon, this resulted in our ADC and Top flaming each other. They call each other useless, etc. Our ADC just stayed at base only farming if they pushed and our top pretty much didn't really care and split push which resulted in death.

Our ADC demanding an apology from our Top laner which didn't happen and our ADC just stayed at base.

How can I handle the situation like this in the future? Should I had just taken the blame for it before it escalated. What would you guys do in this situation?

13 Comments

Mister Robot3/24/2016, 9:35:49 PM3 votes

In the past, you would call it how it is - you would encourage actual production by calling someone out on their shit.

now, you do nothing - if you anger the player, he will say whatever he can to try and get YOU reported. Nothing will ever come of it aside from you getting penalized from Lytes system - You will never feel empathy from RIOT staff either

Computer > Human

Lovely Pants3/25/2016, 5:39:14 AM2 votes

I've actually diffused such a situation before when I really wanted the win. We had one player who had gained a lead and was stomping the enemy, but then started threatening to forfeit when different teammates weren't following exactly along with his orders. One of my other teammates got really pissy and then started going off on a slew of insults of their own. The first player fed a couple of deaths and then sat at base and demanded an apology. To nobody's astonishment, this was not forthcoming.

At length, since our team didn't have enough power to force the end despite being at the inhibitors at that point, I entered the conversation with these kinds of phrases.

"Let's just end the game and move on with our lives." "This could be done right now if we had everyone here." "We need you to finish." "What does it matter? In two minutes time you never have to speak to each other ever again."

Astonishingly enough, after a little bit more whinging about how he needed to teach such and such player a lesson, the afk player felt vindicated by the struggle without him and rejoined so we could quickly close out the game.

Essentially by taking a neutral stance and opening up the perspective that it would be a favor to simply play the game for me, I allowed both players to continue to blame each other but feel self-satisfied that someone actually wanted their participation in the game, I guess. Egos are a funny thing. I occasionally find the most assholish players just have this warped sense of honor and they will somewhat relent to "help" someone who has not given them a reason to continue being a target of their wrath.

Normally I wouldn't put in as much effort as I did in that one situation, but I find a couple of lines of neutral dialogue is pretty helpful in any situation. The key is understanding, like I said to the players in my match, that you will not have any future relationships with your allies after the match is done.

-Never take sides between bickering allies. -You don't need validation of your own feelings from strangers. Especially not completely unhinged strangers. -Strangers will never listen to a lecture from you. It's not your obligation to teach them anything, be it manners or gameplay. -Encouraging players in ways unrelated to a debate makes everyone more willing to work together, even if they have a beef with another player.

You can always just take the easy path of ignoring cantankerous players, take probably a loss on the chin, realize it's not really that important, and more quickly move on to something better with your time.

I hate my ADC3/25/2016, 12:23:22 AM1 votes

I usually say something along the lines of: "Nobody cares who did what wrong. Right now, both of you are wrong for the simple fact that you are acting like 7 years old kids. You want to prove you are better than the other one? Than grow up, stop acting like a kid and focus on winning the game WITH the team."

It doesn't always work, but usually there is one of them that mute the other and stop the flaming war. If one stop, there is no fuel for the other to keep flaming.

No flash no life3/25/2016, 2:37:16 AM1 votes

"Guys, calm down." ...oh wait

A punk is picking a fight with a pedestrian. The victim knows he has no chance when it comes to trading blows, so as soon as brawl breaks out the pedestrian bends down and tries to pull the punk's pants off. Needless to say, the punk's hands are busy holding his pants instead of punching his target.

If you're in a helpless situation where there no way to win with your force at hand, sabotage your opponent. You can't make your teammates stop arguing and your team's state isn't going to improve, so try worsening the state of your opponents. Unleash the salt Say things that are likely to disrupt your opponents, like "my bf and his friends suck. Hey opponent mid wanna play with me after" and watch their team get jelly at their mid, or "I know what's in your cloud drive" but that can be taken as a threat so I don't advise that.

Reaper Review3/25/2016, 4:33:06 AM1 votes

You can tell the people who are arguing that all they're doing is diminishing their chance of winning. If this doesn't get them to focus (and let's be honest, in a lot of cases it won't), then just ignore them and do your best.

If you lose, don't feel too bummed about it. The people arguing lost too, and brought it upon yourselves. You did everything you could, and should have no shame in it.

Even if it's ranked. They're just numbers in a video game, after all.

SSJ5 BlondeBunny3/24/2016, 9:02:11 PM1 votes

Go full king leonidas and shoit this is sparta and wreck the enemy team

Or die trying

Be the game changer

Holyflygon3/26/2016, 8:54:23 PM1 votes

There are plenty of games i can recall and 100s others where we lose the game because one play gave up at the 17mins mark because of a bad start. People tiliting and not wanting to play the game anymore is a major issue and the one way to fix this is you need to ignore that person. Treat it as a 4v5 mute him so he doesnt tilt or aggravate you so u want to leave. These games are always going to come and 90% of the time your going to lose the game because of it but in the future it helps you learn what you can do in 4v5 situations. Now if your the only person who mutes this tilted player then its going to be hard and you will need to make some kind of major play to revive your teammates into winning. I usually do that with a good baron fight people always feel better when you ace them at baron.

Lothàrs Edge3/24/2016, 9:15:36 PM1 votes

Stop caring and stop trying because you will only escalate the situation. It won't matter what you say or what you'll do. Some people aren't in it just to win it. Some people want to play and have fun with their team. When one (or more) of their teammates are being extremely negative and downright "douchebags" you're not going to convince either person that it's worth winning because they no longer want to win for their teammate.

This is also speaking from self-experience. I used to try and make amends, or get people to work together. But over 10 years of playing Mobas, I've gotten quite jaded and I honestly... don't care about winning as much anymore. If someone wants to be a complete dick, I won't throw or give up, but I won't try as hard. And there's nothing you can do or say to make me give it my all, if I don't want to. If you think that's toxic or whatever, well then I guess that's your issue ):