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Do you honor toxic players that play well? I'm curious as to what everyone's stance is on this.

FioraWillCarry·12/12/2019, 9:55:14 PM·1 votes·2,866 views

Just got out of a game with one of the most abusive little shit I've ever played with. He abused his team mates, including me, all game. Called us stupid, unskilled, idiots, the works. I ended doing quite well that game, and he ended up doing even better. He was on Twitch in the AD carry role. The rest of our team though, they were trying but feeding all over the place, losing skirmishes, going in 3v5 and all that noob shit we always complain about here. Mainly on the backs of me and our super toxic Twitch we won the game eventually, without that much trouble. I mean a fed Kayle+Twitch mid game is really difficult to deal with regardless of 3 feeding team mates.

After the game, I honored Twitch despite how abusive he was all fuckin game. I honored him because he fuckin carried his shit. This is nothing new to me as I will always honor people that play well regardless of how much of an asshole they were in game. I was curious, does anyone else do this? How do you guys feel about honoring abusive team mates that carry or play well?

My stance is, if you don't feed, you carry or play really well in general, I will honor you if we win, regardless of what you said in game. If you're the nicest most encouraging person in the world but we lose because you went 0-11, I will fuckin report you in the 0.00005% hope that the system mistakes you for an actual inter and ban you. I don't care how nice you were. That's my stance. What's yours?

55 Comments

OneMustFall12/12/2019, 10:28:14 PM11 votes

No, that just encourages them to be dickheads in the future to other people. Being good at a video game doesn't entitle you to being an asshole. Imagine someone like that in real life. They're on your basketball team and they're way better than everyone else but they're complete douchebags. They'd get kicked off the team sooner or later because they'd kill the team morale. The majority of people don't want to play with assholes, even if it means winning.

Umbral Regent12/12/2019, 10:21:27 PM10 votes

I tend to not Honor toxic teammates, no matter if they performed well or carried or what have you. Toxic players don't deserve Honor in general (and, frankly, if they get reported in a match they were toxic in, any Honor they get is basically nullified anyhow.)

More often than not, if even just 2~ teammates are toxic and make the game unenjoyable, I tend to completely skip Honoring anyone entirely. There isn't much point in Honoring in a match where nearly half the team is awful.

If you're the nicest most encouraging person in the world but we lose because you went 0-11, I will fuckin report you in the 0.00005% hope that the system mistakes you for an actual inter and ban you.

That's...A terrible mindset. Wanting innocent players to get banned by mistake simply because they underperform in a match? Come on, dude.

zPOOPz12/12/2019, 10:37:24 PM8 votes

No, I will never honor a toxic player even if he goes 20/0/10 in game. I'd rather honor the 1/8/5 who I see trying and not spewing garbage in chat. Winning is not everything. I play for fun (this IS a game after all), not to see garbage in chat.

AeroWaffle12/13/2019, 1:10:42 AM6 votes

Thankfully, honor means nothing as far as determining whether or not someone is to be punished for poor behavior.

People like you who falsely report for intentionally feeding is one of the major reasons that Riot gives the person doing poorly every benefit of the doubt. Riot is forced to do so to avoid banning players who just play poorly. So indirectly, you're making Riot's job of detecting legitimate intentional feeding cases harder and thus less likely.

Kei14312/12/2019, 11:15:58 PM6 votes

My honor vote always goes to people with the best behavior regardless of gameplay results.

ModPrandine12/13/2019, 2:31:17 AM6 votes

No, if someone is being a jerk then I will not honor them regardless of their score line. I play games to have fun and to win, and I don't appreciate it when someone uses "I'm just trying to win/be competitive" as an excuse to harass and tear down others. People who act like that are not being honorable and thus don't deserved to be honored.

Even in professional sports there are many examples of players being cut from teams simply because of their bad attitudes. One such example is Dardoch, a pro LoL player, who despite being a skilled player has a reputation for being hard to work with due his attitude and as such has bounced around multiple teams because of it. Dennis Rodman, a former pro Basketball player, despite his skills at the game is arguably more well known for his poor behavior. Poor behavior tends to overshadow skill, which in turn makes it harder to find people willing to work with you since the harm your poor behavior brings often outweighs the benefits your skill brings.

That aside it's interesting how you complain about intentional feeders yet do everything in your power to get non-intentional feeders banned (and therefore make it harder to catch actual legitimate inters) simply because they didn't play to your standards. What about toxic players who lose the game due to their toxic behavior? Also how would you like it if someone reported you and got you banned simply because you didn't play well and had a bad score line? Everyone (including you) plays bad from time to time and has bad games, so if you want unintentional poor performers gone then by your logic you should want yourself gone because you play poorly unintentionally sometimes as well. Or does this logic only apply to others and not yourself?

Arammus12/12/2019, 10:45:38 PM5 votes

since theres no "carried my ass" honor, nope.

if noone sticks out tho i tend to honor the person who did an impressive play.

NF Remilia12/13/2019, 7:30:34 AM4 votes

I prefer to have 0/8 person that is super friendly and going 0/8 for a reason , maybe learning a new champion or something. I would honor him and maybe add him in my friendlist , help him to understand the,champion ( if i know how it works ) etc. Having 20/0 person that is insulting everyone just kills the fun of the game...

GatekeeperTDS12/13/2019, 12:01:18 AM4 votes

No. I don't honor the MVP, I honor who was the most fun to play with.

KVbqbFsC8e12/15/2019, 12:07:59 AM2 votes

I typically honor whoever played the best. I couldn't care less if they were "toxic" in chat.

DONT NEEEED TEAM12/13/2019, 1:38:05 AM1 votes

I agree idk how people have fun losing enjoy being a loser forever i guess rathrt win at any cost

Kanyoupipu12/14/2019, 10:41:57 PM1 votes

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Just got out of a game with one of the most abusive little shit I've ever played with. He abused his team mates, including me, all game. Called us stupid, unskilled, idiots, the works. I ended doing quite well that game, and he ended up doing even better. He was on Twitch in the AD carry role. The rest of our team though, they were trying but feeding all over the place, losing skirmishes, going in 3v5 and all that noob shit we always complain about here. Mainly on the backs of me and our super toxic Twitch we won the game eventually, without that much trouble. I mean a fed Kayle+Twitch mid game is really difficult to deal with regardless of 3 feeding team mates.

After the game, I honored Twitch despite how abusive he was all fuckin game. I honored him because he fuckin carried his shit. This is nothing new to me as I will always honor people that play well regardless of how much of an asshole they were in game. I was curious, does anyone else do this? How do you guys feel about honoring abusive team mates that carry or play well?

My stance is, if you don't feed, you carry or play really well in general, I will honor you if we win, regardless of what you said in game. If you're the nicest most encouraging person in the world but we lose because you went 0-11, I will fuckin report you in the 0.00005% hope that the system mistakes you for an actual inter and ban you. I don't care how nice you were. That's my stance. What's yours?

I started looking at your posts and I am 100% a fan

I view things exactly the same way.

Downvotes on these boards are a badge of honor. Posters here would rather lose with polite inters than win with carries calling them mean words.

Inkling Commando12/15/2019, 12:05:19 AM1 votes

I honor teammates based on attitude as opposed to performance. if a teammate is playing bad but is not tilted at all by things while the carry is flaming out of his ass i'm honoring the one who stayed calm in the game. and should my team decide to surrender I wont honor anybody regardless of how well you played or how your attitude is. I will never surrender and if my teammate surrenders anyway I wont honor them.