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Permaban system

Missed Cannon·8/5/2018, 8:19:58 AM·3 votes·2,829 views

Dear Riot, I would ask you about your system and deciding if a player should be perma banned or not. I have seen some really un-fair bans in my history of playing League of Legends, and boy.. I have been playing since season 3/4, non-stop!

Me myself have never had problems with the system, considering the fact I never flame and never tilt (honor 5), but I have realized that people that are honor 2 get banned more easily even tho they didn't flame, and im not here to defend my friends, because I know for a fact that my friends are hella toxic. All I wanna say is.. my friend, honor 2, got banned for self-defense since 4-man premades were flaming him constantly. I have seen the chat-logs and I wouldn't considering it ''toxic'', so my question is, why did he get permad?

Then I considering him maybe being toxic in opther games.. maybe getting banned before, or maybe chat restricted some time earlier, but nope, he just got perma banned because ''The system'' though it was the right thing to do. The fun part was when he tried contacting riot about it, and they just cut all communication with him, so he couldn't contact them..

But all this aside, I wanna know, what does it take to get banned from 'League of Legends', and why didn't we the 'community' get to know about the fact that it became more ''stricter'' with the rules. If I do badly 3 games in a row going 1/11, 5/19, 4/20, will I get banned? Does it count as inting?

That's mostly everyhing I wanna know right now, but I might get some more questions [sg-miss-fortune]

10 Comments

Umbral Regent8/5/2018, 9:27:47 AM2 votes

So, first of all - it doesn't matter what Honor Level you are, whether you're Honor Level 5, Honor Level 2, or Dishonorable - everyone is, in the most basic sense, equally likely to receive punishment. This is of course disregarding factors like player disposition, anger issues, attitudes, etc., but the idea is the same. You're no more likely to receive a punishment because you're Honor 2 as you are at Honor 5.

Second; your friend may have gotten banned not for "defending themselves", but for retaliating against the 4-man premade. You may not have seen anything toxic due to some bias (maybe being more likely to forgive your friend's behavior, or desensitized to said behavior and unaware of it being against the rules - who knows?), but odds are high that he didn't really defend himself as much as he attacked them back.

Third; I'd be surprised if he got permanently banned from just one game. He absolutely must have had some prior punishment, and if your assessment of his behavior is at least half-right, he may well have been given at least three punishments in the past (two chat restrictions of increasing severity, and one temporary ban).

The IFS is absolutely not arbitrary - it doesn't just decide to ban someone out of the blue. If someone gets punished, then that means that they broke the rules and were reported for it. If they were reported, the IFS reviews the match for punishable behavior (in accordance with whatever report categories were selected), and if the player did break the rules, they are likely to get punished.

On the flip-side, if the review turns up with no punishable behavior (whether through there being no actual punishable behavior or through the extremely odd chance of a false-negative), then no punishment or penalty is applied.

Fourth; if Riot cut off communications with your friend, then that's an indication that your friend was likely being coarse and inflammatory with the Riot Support Agents. They tend to close off Support Tickets when players show that they're not willing to accept the answer they're given, or that they're just being assholes for the sake of being assholes. So, again; if your friend got Riot to cut off communication with your friend outright...Your friend more than likely threw a fit or otherwise screwed the communication themselves.

And lastly; no. The system, as far as I've seen, is no more stricter now than it was last year, or even the year before that, that I can tell. And no, getting poor scores in consecutive matches will not result in a ban for intentional feeding on its own. If you genuinely tried and didn't intentionally feed, you have nothing to worry about.

Pyrosan8/5/2018, 8:21:09 AM1 votes

They're actually in the process of trying the system out, look it up and it's some reddit post, I lost it but it's easy to find

Last Breàth8/5/2018, 10:37:12 AM1 votes

I can easily type "kys" once , get 2 weeks ban and drop from honor level 5 to honor level 0 with locked rewards after the ban. That happened to me before 6 days. :)

Telephone Booth8/7/2018, 4:53:08 AM1 votes

I think you're biased, and over simplifying things. You say you've seen a lot of unfair bans? How? How did you see them? What did you know about them? Did you just hear them explain to you why they were banned? Did you believe every word? Do you question their judgement at all? Or are their versions of the truth, THE truth? Are you misinterpreting anything possibly? Why are you so sure of yourself? And then, you make claims about how likely people are to be banned based on honor, but end with a question of how banning works. You don't even know What it takes to get banned, but you wanna tell us how honor affects it. Like wtf? Do you know, or not?!?!