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The people who cause the problems are always the ones to first point the 'toxic' finger

Hibeki·4/25/2018, 3:47:10 AM·3 votes·1,332 views

Toxicity has been given too much credit as an excuse.

I'm not really a toxic person unless people ask for it. I point out flaws and how to fix them, but i dont call people names until the last straw.

Saying "Hey I am getting camped top, can you do something about it" is not toxic

Later saying "Ok, if you aren't going to gank top can you counterjungle the enemy team or gank another lane" is not toxic

When you still have done nothing, saying "Can you do literally anything other than be afk in fountain" is not toxic.

This is just an example, but that guy is the first to immediately scream that you are toxic as an excuse for their poor play. When they play poorly, and you give them advice, and they dont change, then continue to play poorly despite knowing what to do, the burden is on them. You have the right to be upset about them.

This doesnt mean you need to tell them that their mom is a whore, but riot has seriously given the 'toxic' excuse too much credibility.

12 Comments

Chermorg4/25/2018, 5:02:15 AM4 votes

See, you are being toxic by doing that. You're constantly blaming them, being negative towards them, and being passive aggressive.

No, asking for a Gank isn't toxic. Doing it in a jerk way is.

Ekitaih4/25/2018, 5:04:24 AM3 votes

Yea, I think the first two comments are not toxic. However, I think the last comment is. I disagree though. Seeing some of the garbage that I see in chat can really get me annoyed and people tend to play worse when they aren't relaxed/comfortable/"In the zone." Toxicity can easily affect the affect the way a player plays. I love the mute button because when I start playing poorly, I'd rather not see people spam pinging me or flaming me. It doesn't make that person play better.

DearPear4/25/2018, 5:54:47 AM3 votes

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Saying "Hey I am getting camped top, can you do something about it" is not toxic

That I agree, it is not toxic.

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Later saying "Ok, if you aren't going to gank top can you counterjungle the enemy team or gank another lane" is not toxic

That I disagree, it is toxic.

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"Can you do literally anything other than be afk in fountain" is not toxic.

It is even more toxic than the previous sentence.

In all seriousness now, who do you think you are to actively judge your allies and tell them what to do? Should I remind you that you have the same MMR they do and so the same presumed level?

OniZetsu6664/25/2018, 5:21:58 AM1 votes

Reminds me of my last game where I merely SUGGESTED that our support didnt play annie because well...annie isnt doing too well as a support right now. Now mind you I am a support main trying to learn jungle. My friend who is a jungle main suggested eve for my playstyle. This is about my third game with her in norms. I get counter jungled and my blue and my wolves taken. So I am behind and I cant gank properly. Yay. Team starts messing with me "Thank god we dont have an annie support though right guys" "This guy just talks shit and doesnt do shit"....like what? I suggested that the support doesnt play annie? so i die to vi..." Report our jungler for flaming in champ select and tilting the team".............WHAT then they continue to bash me every chance they get instead of actually playing the game. I died to a 2vs1 because no one let me know that lux was loose in my jungle with vi. "Lol our eve is inting"....we all agreed to surrender at 15...I was scared that one of them was gonna say no because then the blame would have been put on me probably... not the first time but still thats all i needed that match. Funny thing is...our mid was on a loosing streak when i checked his profile... gee I wonder if he was already tilted and pushed his agression on me? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. I went with my good nature and didnt report them though the more I think about it the more I feel like I should have.

5050BS4/25/2018, 5:47:09 AM1 votes

Yep