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Riot: want to know why people dont like playing support? Read within

HavokDash··2 votes·1,937 views

Simple reason, one of many. Support is seen as WORTHLESS.

"You are support. if support dies, so what" "support is just a meat shield" "Support is supposed to die so adc can get kills" "You are support, you are not allowed to say anything"

You want to know why people dont want to play support? Take a look at the rest of the team and see how they treat the support. Support is seen as a "Lane slave" to be kicked around and degraded. They say a support is "supposed to die" for adc, then turn around and if the support does die "report my support for "inting". Support is treated like shit, but still expected to "support" adc. Though I personally WILL not support an adc quick to throw me under the bus. I have 3 other teammates I can go support.

Supports are treated as a sort of "damned if you do, damned if you dont" More often then not I am degraded and insulted as the support for "you got no kills" as they completely ignore my assists, and yet the MOMENT I get a kill, it flips to "Wtf are you doing, OMG troll support taking adc's kills". No matter what supports do to try and SUPPORT our team, we are degraded, insulted, flamed and labeled as "Trolls" because we dont just lay down and let the enemy kill us so adc can have +1 kill. If the Adc dives in to a 1v3 and dies, somehow it becomes the "supports fault"

I see time and time again that as support I can blow all my abilities supporting my adc. I can CC the enemy, leash and keep my adc healed. But the moment they get a kill, any participation the support plays is immediately rendered null and void.

I have said it many times but I have had a game where I have used all my abilities as soraka to get my adc lucian a triple kill. Keeping lucian healed, Slow/silence/leashing the enemy with pokes. And yet as soon as the match was over, i was told how much of a "fucking useless support" i was. and How in lucians own words "you were fucking useless, those kills were all me"

If you want more people to want to play support and not be FORCED into autofill support, Fix this damn attitude where the support is just some disposable lane slave to be kicked around and degraded because they didnt throw themselves into a 1v3 so adc could try and pick up a couple last hits after support wears down the enemy. Fix this idea that the support is completely worthless because they arent 12/0 kda, and yet the moment they DO get a kill, immediately they are a "troll support" who is out to solely ruin adcs game with the intention to get every kill.

Riot keeps wondering why no one wants to really play support, and why they effectively have to be forced into it by autofill. Its not the champs Its not the items its not the support role itself Its the attitude that supports arent worth even helping when they are getting focused. That they are worth no more than bird shit on a shoe. That even when a support is getting focused and chased down for effectively keeping teams alive, the team will turn around and accuse the support of "inting" "report our support for intentional feeding" If support gets a kill, they are "trolling" If support doesnt get a kill, they are "fucking useless support cant even get a single kill" If support runs in to help try and pull an adc out alive its "report the inting support" If support DOESNt help or fails to pull the adc out alive "Omg report my trolling support" (or in my cases, my adc dives in 1v3 while I am backing due to No mana, then cries "useless fucking support" over and over and tells me how they dont need me) I had an adc throw a tantrum and idle in spawn, throwing the whole match because I, as support,.....had 3 CS, 3 FUCKING MINIONS caused him to lose his mind and sit in spawn sucking his thumb, throwing the whole match.

So Yeah, Maybe riot should take less of a look at the support role, and more at how the support role is seen by the rest of the team. and To my teams:

I am a support I am here to help keep the team alive. I am here to help get you fed and help win. I am NOT your meat shield I am not your scapegoat (we lost, so its all support's fault) I am not your sacrifice "supports job is to die so the adc can get away" I am NOT here to cater to your overinflated ego of how "OP" you are. I am not here to pat you on the back Dont tell me how to play my role when you dont even know how the role works to begin with! (Seriously, Autofill supports throw the biggest fucking tantrums and usually dodge in normals. Tell them "You got autofilled support, Its normals. Use it to learn the role" and the response you get is "Fuck that, I dont want to learn support, I want one of my roles" and then they throw a tantrum and dodge or "fine then i will just feed/troll") I am sure there are plenty of other Support Lane Horror stories. Why not share some.

18 Comments

ModPeriscope4 votes

I’ve mained support all the time I’ve played league. I have had the toxicity toward supports, but they are pretty seldom, at least from my experience. If others start giving you attitude, just mute and play your game.

As for being auto filled support, I’m finding that lately isn’t the case: when I pick auto fill, support is actually something I rarely get, somewhere around 25%. In fact, the only time this year my role has been stolen was a mid stealing my support role.

Best Vi Earth3 votes

iv been a support main since season 3. you cant be more wrong. once you get the game knowledge you will be hailed a god. instead of complaining on the boards get that knowledge start learning. i would say about 85% of my games at least 1 person says they love me just for that fact. here let me help you become less "worthless".

  1. play more agressive
  2. manage wards to backing ratio once you have the support item quest done or have SS
  3. once get you get a kill and are backing bot even if you dont have alot of cc go mid and see what you can get if mid laner is there of course. this is called "roaming" this is where support can take control of the game.
  4. do not use your pinks bot either pink mid lane or the enemy jungle since most the time the jungler wont clear that ward and gives you alot of vision time for that cost of the ward making it very efficient place to put it.
  5. what i would say would be the most important and last step for low elo players. play "play-maker" champions. janna raka morg you wont learn much or anything with champs like those. i know you have a problem with this last step. but it will help you learn much faster since you are more involved with the game than just being a shield/ward bot.

these are very simple but over looked things you can do to better yourself. even better get off the forums go to youtube and watch some tutorial videos for my advice i gave to give you a more in depth explanation on those items.

also dont worry about skills, those will come in time. just these small things can get you to gold easy by taking control of the game YOURSELF. once you stop making excuses for yourself the sky is the limit. we believe in you. good luck to you on the rift.

HavokDash1 votes
  1. I play aggressive support and get labeled a "troll" for it and told how I need to sit back and not touch the enemy while my adc casually farms for 25 minutes like its farmville
  2. I place plenty of wards to have alot of vision on the map but I still have to ping to the point of "you must wait to issue more pings" just to get my adc to actually LOOK AT THE MAP
  3. I do try and roam mid when I can and get told "wtf supp, gtfo of my lane" while my adc is throwing a fit "omg report my support for leaving lane" (while he is backing or still at base)
  4. I place wards wherever I can, if I need a pink, I get one and try and place it where it will provide the most vision without being blatently obvious.
  5. I main soraka, have been playing her sinse season 3. So far the champs I play alot of are: soraka, Morgana, Janna, pyke (last match I got a triple klll off ONE ult...they were so close together. 1 X, 3 kills, 1 tonne of salt)

I have been playing this game sinse season 3, so I am quite well aware of how the game is played. Sadly I keep getting matched with adcs and teammates who have thier heads shoved up thier backsides, and an overinflated and coddled ego, a sense of narcissistic entitlement, and a hair-trigger to fly into a full on tantrum. If they dont get ALL the kills, they tantrum if they dont get aLL the cs, they tantrum. if the team doesnt play, build, or do everything they say, they tantrum. As I said I had an adc who threw a shitfit and stopped playing the match because I had 3 cs, 3 minions....from a soraka Q. he spent the whole game reminding me of how much of a "useless support" i was and how "Support isnt supposed to have CS" but still refused to play the match because i killed 3 minions.

Dont try and teach a veteran player how to play the game, teach the entitled little toddlers not to throw a tantrum like a kid in a supermarket who didnt get the candybar they wanted. so they drop to the floor kicking and screaming till mommy (or in this case the team) caves in and coddles their every whim

FOR JUSTICE1 votes

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  1. I play aggressive support and get labeled a "troll" for it and told how I need to sit back and not touch the enemy while my adc casually farms for 25 minutes like its farmville

Sounds to me like youre playing too aggressively tbh. You have to keep these things in moderation. And depending on the ADC they arent always going to be as blood-thirsty as you are.

  1. I place plenty of wards to have alot of vision on the map but I still have to ping to the point of "you must wait to issue more pings" just to get my adc to actually LOOK AT THE MAP

Twice is fine, they can see. Best results is ping on top of minions so its impossible to miss.

  1. I do try and roam mid when I can and get told "wtf supp, gtfo of my lane" while my adc is throwing a fit "omg report my support for leaving lane" (while he is backing or still at base)

Your probably waiting too long and leeching too much exp, making your midlaner uncomfortable, or are roaming at in opportune times (like when your adc has a giant minion wave crashin into tower on his way back)

  1. I place wards wherever I can, if I need a pink, I get one and try and place it where it will provide the most vision without being blatently obvious.

Thats cool. Brushes Near jungle camps are best IMO

  1. I main soraka, have been playing her sinse season 3. So far the champs I play alot of are: soraka, Morgana, Janna, pyke (last match I got a triple klll off ONE ult...they were so close together. 1 X, 3 kills, 1 tonne of salt)

No one on this list but pyke has a good roam (morganas is decent though), so thats probably why your teammates are complaining as well, enchanters arent exactly looking to do much other then babysit someone else.

Best Vi Earth1 votes

ok i will give you benefit of the doubt since i have no statistics of your games. clearly you are not playing on your main for good reason. i assume this account youre playing on has a rank?

HavokDash2 votes

NO I dont play on this account, 1 becuse people would use ANY negative or bad game as an instant "ur mad cuz bad so everything you say can be dismissed". Like you have ONE bad game where you have an afk and a feeder so go negative...so people use THOSE games to compltely dismiss ANYTHINg you have to say. and 2) Because the account was banned. Mostly for general negativity (You try staying positive when you have kids who are happy to throw a winnable game because we woudnt hand ALL kills to them. Or in the case of the match I stated...An adc who quit the match and threw because I have adc.

But yes, On the account I am playing I do play ranked for the most part. ANd as I stated. Almost all of the teams I get are the "OMG Im so edgy" call of duty kids who dont want to focus towers, but want to -try- and make the enemy team magically run out of respawns. So while they are running after every single kill that shows up on th mini map and ignores towers. The enemy takes OUR towers while this toddlers is busy bragging about how hard they are "solo carrying"

When I play ranked, I play to win, Not to cater to the overinfated ego of some coddled little shit who thinks the whole game revolves around them. I have already lost any and all respect for ranked a long time ago. But I still -try- to win. Though thats obviously not gonna happen with the children on this game who would rather polish and pretty up thier kda than help their team.

Just got out of a match actually with an adc who would Not actually help the team, we could be in a teamfight and the moment she got hit even ONCE, losing one little notch on that ruler-like health bar. She would immediately bail, run back to base. Leave the rest of her team, and sit there waiting for cleanup kills with still having 99.89% of her health left. No suprise we lost considering it was a 5v4

Kei1432 votes

That mindset that you see typically happens at the lower elos. Higher elos dont think that way for supports.

Xurreal2 votes

The issue is low elo never experiences high elo games, so to them, the entire ladder is the same from Unranked Draft games to Challenger.

Also doesn't help that some unsavory Types who have the High Elo experience and know what to do promote being toxic "because you're bronze!"

And that means you have no right to defend yourself to them.

I say just stick to staying focused and just play the game. Learn what you can from however you can, but don't let someone else influence your ability to think about what to do next.

OurLestrade1 votes

Pyke

Dâk1 votes

Support pretty much should just be helping the adc to ramp up and you do have to die to keep the team alive sometimes. I don't know about your experiences but i can tell you just play normals all day and is scared of ranked and don't want to better improve yourself to understand how supports work or the game in general.xd

HavokDash1 votes

What are you talking about, I play in ranked all the time. I dont know where the hell you got that info from.

IcyPepper1 votes

I don't know, things seemed to have changed in the last couple of seasons.

Everyone has access to trinkets, support wards are tied to their support item and their method of acquirement is visible to their laning buddy (mostly coin and relic shield) and then their team with the chat announcement, more visible support item actives... not to mention the occasional broken support metas like Ardent Censer. Not to mention everyone has a vision score now, and you know how people are when it comes to getting BIGGER NUMBERS.

Sure, you'll get a few stuck up pricks, but support effectiveness visibility is UP and things are a lot better than what they were before. It might not be the most popular role, but I see a lot less people shitting on me nowadays for just doing my job.

HavokDash1 votes

as I said, Its not about the items. 9/10 games I get, the adc (and a more than a few times the rest of the team) is stuck in this season 2 mentality where the support is only there to be kicked around. Adc dives and support isnt there (in my case its because despite announcing i was backing to base, they dive 1v2 with a full health enemy then blame me for not being there when they died) Or as I quoted above, they see support role as little more than "you have to die so I can get kills after ur dead"

DontTouchMyBall1 votes

I know right? But the thing is when I am treated like crap and I kinda love it, and if I am treated well, I also love it, dunno which I love more. Ya know what they call us, heal sluts & shield sluts too. Ive been called braindead and some ungodly things I rather not say. There's something about it that I simply don't care about and will keep Q'ing up for support. Gotta love the perk of the shorter Queue times that comes with maining support too.

Offer advice to an ally laner? Well, fugg me, Im the support, shut up. This has happened and I find it hilarious and sad at the same time. Ya know who does usually recognise very well my job as a supports? The enemy team! That's it, and boy they hate me for it!

Might I have a psychological problem? Of course not, Im a perfectly healthy individual and Im definitely not aroused with playing support or writting this

Arngrim311 votes

What you've just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for reading it. I award you no points, and may Riot have mercy on your soul.

Xurreal1 votes

When I play supports, I make it a point to try to get an S.

A possible issue is that few Carry likes to see a Support with a better score. OCD is a thing. Two players may have opposing views on how the lane should go and neither will back down about it.

I have to admit though, usually, the ADC is the toxic one, but there are a fair amount of supports who make the role look bad in my elo.

Ah hell who am I kidding, there are people in every role that makes the role look bad in my elo.

A Pretty Unicorn1 votes

I've mained support since s1 and, yea, people bitch at you sometimes. Better to just hit the mute button and not take it to heart.

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