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Why are ADC players perceived as toxic?

M3llen·8/1/2018, 3:40:49 AM·5 votes·5,035 views

As title suggests, why?

From personal experience, I had rarely seen a toxic adc player, yet every time I am given the ADC role, people automatically assume that I will be toxic. There are games when I would politely ask my support to not take my CS on purpose, but instead of a response, most of the time my support would either simply flame me for no reason, ignore my request, or simply grief the lane completely via feeding/afk/prolonged roaming (12 min into the game and they are mid for over 10 min). Yet when I question the situation further, I am often met with backlash from pretty much everyone in the game except for the enemy ADC, whom I assume understands my frustration but is to scared to speak up. So why is it? Why is it that every time there's something in the bot lane, the ADC is always bashed and treated as toxic when most of them are in fact very polite? Why is it that support players can get away with trolling as much as they would like because of this "toxic ADC" stereotype that is put on every ADC player regardless of how they behave or how they play?

21 Comments

Zombie Gerbil8/1/2018, 6:51:04 AM4 votes

Unlike the rest of the laners, ADC has to work with a second person, unlike the other laners there's more of a possibility of an easy scapegoat. The support has to be there with the adc, which could lead to a lot of arguments. So it's really not just the ADC. It can also be with the support. Because there are more chances that there can be a disagreement, and when they are met, they will look for something to blame it on. Who else better than who's closest and not playing by their standards?

But here's the thing. All people can be toxic. All laners can be toxic. Of course, there's more of a chance that bot lane can end up in arguments, but I've experienced that Junglers ends up being at the end of the rope, because he has to deal with three lanes blaming them if they're not playing by the other 3 laner's expectations. That's 4 players blaming them. So it is more likely that a jungler will lash out before the bot laners.

But alas, that is only what I've experienced in my years of using Riot's Service.

siilentdeath8/2/2018, 2:06:36 AM3 votes

im seen as toxic for not accepting BS support picks. ill get a Jhin who swears hes gonna play like a support then builds item 1055 item 3036 item 3086 with 0 support items and a refusal to ward. then my team clamps down on only me after i politely ask my support to please ward. then my teams says shit like "you need to just work with this guy" . so the support dosent need to work with me ? so yeah if that makes me toxic then hell yeah i am.

Icy Hot Shoto8/1/2018, 7:36:47 AM2 votes

TBF, it depends on the both the game, and you're role, honestly.

As a support main, I've gotten a lot of shit from adcs for no reason. Taking 1cs? Adc gets mad. Secured a kill after adc died? "wtf!!!!!! i had that!!!!!!!!!????!!!!". Ward ran out? "Are you fucking serious, no wards?"

However, I've gotten the exact same stuff from other laners and even the jungler. But sometimes when talking to other support mains, they only ever seem to get the toxic behavior from adcs, and apparently every single game. However, that's not my experience.

Yes, I get a toxic adc every handful of games. But at the same time, I can also get a toxic jungler, top, or even mid laner instead of an adc.

So, my guess is that it's support mains and people who just genuinely despise playing support that say it's the adc who's toxic. SInce, you know, some(not all) have that "they must do it my way" mentality, especially if they're autofilled support and refuse to actually play the role.

Again, this is just my experience playing as a support and the rare other roles.

disregardable8/1/2018, 4:50:55 AM2 votes

People sympathize with support, because they hate playing it themselves.

Before 8.10, you would get flamed to fuck if you brought anything that wasn't an ADC bot

but support xin zhao? "shut up dude, he can play whatever he wants". they can troll all they want. Riot won't punish them and your team won't side with you.

But I will say people don't assume I'm toxic. Maybe you actually are being toxic.

GodlyBane8/1/2018, 10:05:03 PM2 votes

:/

Trundamere8/1/2018, 4:57:18 AM2 votes

From my own personal experience which is very little since 95% of my games or so I play in top lane, is every time I have been auto filled into the support role, which i have absolutely no clue how to play and works against everything I do know when it comes to playing the game. the ADC has almost always been extremely toxic to me. and always haves a conniption fit when I kill the other laner, they act like they are entitled to getting the kill and they will not have it any other way. and claim i am ruining their game play or something or some sort.

I can only recall one game where the ADC was not toxic to me when I was auto filled. Everything else has pretty much been extremely bad.

Arammus8/1/2018, 8:05:21 AM2 votes

they are? i cant agree with that statement. but i can explain why (i think).

the role is called attack damage CARRY and is literally explained as "the glass canon that wins the game if protected" so with our brain being good at lying to us, always trying to protect us from being harmed its easy to see why some ppl think them being adc means its all about them. "i am the adc, i am the only person on our team able to win us the game, everyone play all around me me me" and if your team doesnt do that, i imagine these players going crazy.

FrozenFrostFyre8/1/2018, 4:07:33 AM2 votes

Since I main ADC I can't speak for how toxic my role is but the two most toxic roles I run into are 1) junglers by far are extremely toxic 2) every once in a while there will be the most toxic suppose main you can imagine stealing C's roams to another lane lvl 3 to never come back again. BMS you for dying under tower in a 1v3 after they leave.

LordGeovanni8/1/2018, 9:04:32 PM1 votes

One thing would be that adcs often dont follow up on engages in my experience and leave allies to die but then complain that some one else is feeding. there is also that farm doesnt belong to anyone it is part of the popular meta that supports dont farm but that isnt 100%.

LordGeovanni8/1/2018, 9:05:08 PM1 votes

One thing would be that adcs often dont follow up on engages in my experience and leave allies to die but then complain that some one else is feeding. there is also that farm doesnt belong to anyone it is part of the popular meta that supports dont farm but that isnt 100%.

Shukr4n8/1/2018, 3:55:11 AM1 votes

Main adc answer

Ecause squishy and only purpose is deal dmg.

Hence adc need babysit wherever he goea and.need all the farm of the match .

If adc dies means no defence from team If adc is notfarmed means team disnt allow asc farm.

So , anger comes.

Is it right?nah But i think that s the reason.

Vaylin1/28/2019, 12:00:45 PM1 votes

Heh, I get this a lot too, especially since I'm a Draven main. If I die early, or sup takes cs/constantly auto's them and I ask them to stop, someone in the team would automatically say something like, "typical toxic Draven".

I either get people assuming I'm toxic, or spamming all these random phrases which I later found out were said by Tyler 1. I don't even watch the guy, I only main Draven cause as a female, I think he's hot. That's the only reason I started to play him in the first place.

It's annoying but I've learned to just mute players if they're like that, it's not like they'd say anything useful anyway and any communication you need nowadays can be done via pings, so it's all good.

A Fish With Legs8/1/2018, 3:59:19 AM1 votes

Last time I had an experience with someone who said that they were an adc main, they told me to kill myself in real life for playing ARAM the way I wanted to play it: For fun.

Other times, I've also had an adc main call me a moron for building MF as AP on ARAM and that I should have given him MF so I could be a dumbass on a different character.

There are many different people with different experiences, but I personally see adc mains just as toxic as the rest of the League community.

Inkling Commando8/1/2018, 4:17:44 AM1 votes

if this is true and ADC are toxic then Yasuo and Zed are big flamers mf is not ADC cause when i am in game as mf i am all cool while Yas and Zed on my team are more flamed and toxic than a Salazzle. (pokemon lovers will know what i mean)

SSShutTheDuckUp8/1/2018, 6:14:28 AM1 votes

It is IMO a matter of perspective. It always sucks to play alongside a toxic player and it is even worse when all you have to do is follow the damn train CJ and protect that toxic player.

Maybe they also know they need to be protected, so maybe they need to be more vocal in chat, therefore more of them would flame.

From my personal experience solo ADC players are rarely toxic. The worst have been 4-man premades, and right after that - adc/mid and adc/jungler duos

Subject 58/1/2018, 7:40:45 AM1 votes

Why are politicians perceived as evil?

Because the role is attracted by those types of people.

Most ADC's I come across are less than humble and usually always never want to continue playing when they're behind. The ADC playerbase can single handedly just put you in the dirt because they're throwing a fit. Recently since gold II I've had 5 Inting ADC's in a row, through promos. Bad luck? I say, nay. Attitude problems.

saltran8/1/2018, 9:35:42 AM1 votes

In games I'm super wholesome, never flame and I'm always positive and cheerful, but on the Boards I'm full of salt and I hate everything and everyone.[slayer-jinx-wink]

NekoniClaws8/1/2018, 1:46:34 PM1 votes

What Zombie Gerbil said + another thing--- a lot of laners resent playing 'protect the adc' comps and, aforementioned comps can make people seem whiney and selfcentered when playing the ADC role, since an ADC might 'snap' and beg for 'peel' or 'wards'. And... it also attracted some people who wanted TO be whiney and self-centered, who people think are the leading example of adcs.

Honestly, anyone who spends extended time with other players in a lane tends to be highly tolerant.

report yasuo8/1/2018, 8:54:28 PM1 votes

because they usually are selfish.