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Riot's Banning and A Practical Solution to Toxic In-game Chats

RobTheTank·9/11/2019, 5:55:47 AM·1 votes·2,185 views

Been seeing a lot of posts about people complaining about getting banned. Seems like most happen in ranked games. This is part of why I simply don't play ranked. Last time I tried ranked I had my perfect situation. I main Blitzcrank and was able to play him for almost all my promos. But my ADC went nuts on voice comms every time something went wrong. My pulls were the only thing that kept him from losing it completely.

I think some of the bans are justified and some aren't. I do indeed believe its in Riot's best interest if frustrated players create a new account and purchase champions and skins with Riot Points again after their previous account got banned.

I also think having zero-tolerance words is a problem for two reasons.

First, how long is this list of words and exactly what words are in it? Getting banned for unknowingly saying one of these words wouldn't be right. Is there an easily accessible list of all banned words we can see like there are for radio? And since in today's society people are offended by everything that list of words will only creep up. Trying to protect people from getting offended is a futile goal.

Secondly, its conceivable someone could make an honest mistake while typing. I could see someone misspelling Kai' Sa's name as "kysa", missing the "a" right before they press Enter on their keyboard, and getting banned for saying "kys." Or maybe someone simply doesn't know English well enough yet; I can speak German and I remember one game a German player somehow ended up on the NA server and all he could speak was German and I translated back and forth the whole game.

My solution? Honestly at this point its best to not even talk in the in-game chat or on voice comms. At all. If you've played with me on your team you know I don't talk much. Almost nothing beyond essential game communications.

"If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" isn't good enough anymore in practice. "You can't be quoted on what you don't say" is the attitude you really need. Its a learned skill, but you just have to grit your teeth and not respond or react or even "fight with words" as it were.

Yes, we're there.

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FOR JUSTICE9/11/2019, 6:10:26 AM9 votes

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Been seeing a lot of posts about people complaining about getting banned. Seems like most happen in ranked games. This is part of why I simply don't play ranked. Last time I tried ranked I had my perfect situation. I main Blitzcrank and was able to play him for almost all my promos. But my ADC went nuts on voice comms every time something went wrong. My pulls were the only thing that kept him from losing it completely.

if you were in voice comms, you were either duo'd, and therefore opted in, or were in discord, to which its outside of riots reach anyway.

I think some of the bans are justified and some aren't. I do indeed believe its in Riot's best interest if frustrated players create a new account and purchase champions and skins with Riot Points again after their previous account got banned.

to be fair permabanning is them saying they literally dont want you back, thats directly stated.

I also think having zero-tolerance words is a problem for two reasons.

First, how long is this list of words and exactly what words are in it? Getting banned for unknowingly saying one of these words wouldn't be right. Is there an easily accessible list of all banned words we can see like there are for radio? And since in today's society people are offended by everything that list of words will only creep up. Trying to protect people from getting offended is a futile goal.

there isnt a clear cut "list" simply because people will simply try and use hate speech not on the list in an attempt to justify saying it. in additon, what constitutes as "hate speech" changes depending on where you are, example, c00n in america is simply a shorthand nickname for a raccon, yet in some places its a racial slur towards black people. general rule of thumb is just to not say anything containing:

sexism racism personal attacks hate crimes such as advocating self harm a homophobic slur

or anything else that can be considered discriminatory and/or derogatory.

Secondly, its conceivable someone could make an honest mistake while typing. I could see someone misspelling Kai' Sa's name as "kysa", missing the "a" right before they press Enter on their keyboard, and getting banned for saying "kys."

if you arent actually reported you arent punished. secondly, you can open a support ticket and just tell them it was a typo, you're unbanned immediately.

Or maybe someone simply doesn't know English well enough yet; I can speak German and I remember one game a German player somehow ended up on the NA server and all he could speak was German and I translated back and forth the whole game.

you arent banned for speaking another language. its only a problem if words in each language create a conflict in meaning. take my coon example.

My solution? Honestly at this point its best to not even talk in the in-game chat or on voice comms. At all. If you've played with me on your team you know I don't talk much. Almost nothing beyond essential game communications.

i mean its a solution yeah.

"If you have nothing nice to say, don't say anything at all" isn't good enough anymore in practice. "You can't be quoted on what you don't say" is the attitude you really need. Its a learned skill, but you just have to grit your teeth and not respond or react or even "fight with words" as it were.

actually the first works perfectly fine, if someone is still getting punished for it, then its actually not as nice as they seem to perceive it.

Tele II9/13/2019, 5:29:12 AM1 votes

I just wonder what you mean by "if you have nothing nice to say, dont say anything at all" isnt good enough anymore in practice. What do you mean isnt good enough anymore in practice?