Is my solution ethical considering the circumstances?

Xurreal··2 votes·489 views

Sitting here doing nothing reading through forum posts because I have nothing to do.

Don't feel like playing a game right now because I just don't. I have a history of responding to toxicity with toxicity and fear of being permabanned again makes me just stop playing when someone flames me. No, I wasn't the only person flamed, but it was clear the other didn't respond well to it either.

I know that many people's shitty way of dealing with the displeasing notion of losing 1 game leads to the utter disrespect flung like poo at people's faces by a monkey in a zoo.

Disabling /all is not enough. Actually it does nothing to combat the problem. From now on, I'm taking this lesson to heart, posting a sticky on my monitor "Silence is Gold. Teamwork is Above all". This will remind me to leave my ego out of the game so that it cannot be touched, and remind me to just /muteall on game start and resume attempting to improve my game (albeit without any form of communication beyond pings). What I really want is the inability to type. I want that option available and will probably post another thread again requesting it.

The less I remove my eyes from the minimap to focus on the whats going on in the chat box, the more I will stay focused on keeping my eyes on the minimap. Simple, right? I can communicate through pings, and chances are, if someone doesn't respond to pings, they either intentionally are ignoring them or they don't look at the minimap.

The less I know about the people I play with, the less I will tilt. It's worked before. It will work from now on. If muting everyone will help me to make better decisions in games, that is what I will do.

They say in the tips: "Don't let another player's frustration influence your actions" and this is exactly my problem. So rather than thinking about what to say, or whether or not I will be getting reported if I say this or that, I choose to accept that at some point, I'm going to get flamed for being counter jungled or consistently ganked. I choose to accept that the weight of being flamed has more value than being complimented. Rather than trying to be the voice of reason, I'm keeping my nose out of it. If we lose, its because I couldn't carry. And if I couldn't, I want to know that I did everything within my power before accepting the loss.

I will take the measures into my own hands and give my own self permanent chat restriction. This means I will no longer be helping to report toxicity because I will never again experience it.

This means that every time I get pissy, it will be of my own accord (which thankfully only happens due to the insensitive comments of others towards myself or others). People have stolen my first camp and I still stay focused. Even team mates have taken my first camp or have refused to leash and I stay focused and win. But words... for some reason... get me tilted. So I will not deal with words anymore. You can physically injure me and my pride will stay intact and I won't attempt to injure you back. But what you say actually takes root and deals way more damage to me. So no more talk.

Talk is cheap anyway.

Problem solved.

Unethical?

13 Comments

Sona Ping1 votes

I read the post entirely and I skimmed it again. Not sure where the ethics question is. You'll go up in elo though.

Xurreal1 votes

Fair enough. I ask this because, to be honest, I want to avoid penalties. Being permanently banned was a major blow to my ego as I often tend to look at myself in a positive light, a good person. That was a dark day.

But does this make me... well... less of a good person if idc what people have to say and potentially give everyone the cold shoulder?

It's not worth the Elo if I become an A-hole.

Jo0o3 votes

Why would ignoring flames make you a bad person?

It's what I do, or try to do.

Sona Ping1 votes

I believe his concern is ignoring the people who try to talk to him legitimately.

Xurreal1 votes

Its not the Flames i'm concerned about. Its giving other sportsmanlike players the cold-shoulder that bothers me.

You never know if that person is cool or not and would make a great duo partner. And it's even in the summoner's code to Facilitate Civil discussion. Not responding to things like "Hey, dude, lets get dragon please" or the like would be kind of like being uncooperative.

I dunno, I think I'm just... being sore. Let me chill.

Sona Ping1 votes

Oh! Okay, just wasn't quite clear on the details.

Yes, it is completely ethical. You have no obligation to participate in the mudslinging that can be League chat. You do not have to talk to anyone, you can make that decision. What you need to do is play and try to win with your team, putting in sportsmanlike competitive effort is the most obligation. You don't need to talk to anyone in the match.

In my opinion, you would be a better person in the ethics sense to avoid the petty arguments and attempts to injure and injure in return.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

I dont think you know what "(un)ethical" means...

Xurreal1 votes

Did they change the meaning of it during one of my many black-outs that I don't remember?

I'm pretty sure they didn't but I'll check just to make sure.

Nope, I do know what it means. It hasn't changed.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

I just think you used the wrong word...

Xurreal1 votes

Unethical has more to do with the way you treat other people. What word should I use? Serious question. No sarcasm intended this time.

The Cream Reaper1 votes

ethical [eth-i-kuh l] pertaining to or dealing with morals or the principles of morality; pertaining to right and wrong in conduct.

how you treat other people in the sense of how you talk to them is not a moral issue.

So I will not deal with words anymore. You can physically injure me and my pride will stay intact and I won't attempt to injure you back. But what you say actually takes root and deals way more damage to me. So no more talk.

What word should I use?

how about instead of "is this the ethical thing to do?", you go with "is this the right thing to do?" ?

and yes

sticks and stones and all that

Xurreal1 votes

You win. I'm a wanker. Lets stop. I don't care anymore.

is it "not right" to treat everyone as a potential flaming jerk even if they could be a positive pillar in the community?

Thats the question.

ModUlanopo1 votes

Most people understand ethics as pertaining to moral choices and analysis. Using the word to refer to a self-created ethos is old-fashioned, but still a (technically) correct usage.

In Judaism, some people believe in following mitzvot of their own designing. For example, I haven't eaten at a McDonalds since 1986.

You may want to look at this rule you have set up for yourself in much the same light: it's something you do that makes your life and the lives of those around you somewhat better.

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