I do not see any positive behavior anymore

Gene Freakz·May 9, 2016·5 votes·649 views

League has never been an exemplary game in the way of positive behavior, but I used to see people say encouraging things to each other when they were behind or ahead. I don't know about you all, but it seems like league is completely void of positive support presently. Do anything wrong and people will rage at you. Do something good and nobody says anything or they say "try hard" Or the person doing well is an arrogant bastard and boasts excessively. The losers of a game are too busy blaming each other and raging while the winners are spamming "good game ez" in the chat. Where has sportsmanship gone?

10 Comments

FovereMay 9, 20163 votes

League isn't really a game-play focused game anymore.

You aren't allowed to expect a basic level of effort/competence/attention from your teammates. It's ok for them to afk and check their phone, text, etc.

The people who actually care about playing the game either 1) climbed and stayed in ranked 2) quit playing or 3) Gave up on trying to effect others.

It's just not worth it anymore. Riot wants League to have a more social feel and be less about skill or mechanics, so that's what we've got. Play a few games on a Saturday, you'll be lucky to even make it through any of them with all ten players still present and accounted for.

zSkeletoRzMay 9, 20162 votes

It's a sign of the times, I figure. I feel your pain.

I learned League just by playing normals, badly. I learned from my mistakes, only because of the advice of players who already knew (save flash, always/where to ward, etc). Now all I see is toxic trolls.

GG world WP.

/ff

SyronosinMay 9, 20161 votes

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It's a sign of the times, I figure. I feel your pain.

I learned League just by playing normals, badly. I learned from my mistakes, only because of the advice of players who already knew (save flash, always/where to ward, etc). Now all I see is toxic trolls.

GG world WP.

/ff

There is even so far as you saying something just plain out equals toxicity even if it's actual advice for a champion that you main, but someone else got that role.

Nameless VoiceMay 9, 20162 votes

I noticed that toxicity decreased a lot when the new champion select launched, but seems to have slowly crept back up towards its old levels by now.

SyronosinMay 9, 20161 votes

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I noticed that toxicity decreased a lot when the new champion select launched, but seems to have slowly crept back up towards its old levels by now.

Shoot, I've even had the whole, "Well I selected top and mid, but I really wanted to play ADC" and you never know if not allowing them what they want will end badly for the team.

BudgetMessiahMay 10, 20162 votes

Sportsmanship died when the player behavior / moderation team at Riot put policies into action that made any comment potentially seen as negative. Players are afraid to be positive because it will be deemed 'passive aggressive' or some such, and bannable.

FovereMay 10, 20162 votes

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Sportsmanship died when the player behavior / moderation team at Riot put policies into action that made any comment potentially seen as negative. Players are afraid to be positive because it will be deemed 'passive aggressive' or some such, and bannable.

It's not even that.

If you are going to put a "positive" or "negative" label on every interaction, and say this half is good, and that half is bad, you are effectively throwing out 50% of interactions, and making the other 50% of them forced or fake.

Either people interact or they don't. If and when people interact, some of those interactions will be "positive", some won't be. You don't get to pick and choose what people have to say to each other. Net result is most people learning to keep quiet most of the time

Earthlord JazzMay 9, 20161 votes

I haven't found this to be the case in the majority of my games. It's like a snowball effect (just like toxicity). Be very positive at the start of the game to EVERYONE and people tend to enjoy the game more and exhibit more positive behavior and play.

I normally start the game with a standard: gl hf :D

Of course I get the occasional "no", but...I dunno...I started going into a game doing that a month or two ago and it's been showing a lot of results. Try it out. Ultimately, we can only control our own actions and words. Be the person you want others to be...and more likely than not they'll want to be like you. We are sheep after all XD

Edit: I also do not play very much ranked, that may be why people are nicer/less mean

FovereMay 9, 20161 votes

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I haven't found this to be the case in the majority of my games. It's like a snowball effect (just like toxicity). Be very positive at the start of the game to EVERYONE and people tend to enjoy the game more and exhibit more positive behavior and play.

I normally start the game with a standard: gl hf :D

Of course I get the occasional "no", but...I dunno...I started going into a game doing that a month or two ago and it's been showing a lot of results. Try it out. Ultimately, we can only control our own actions and words. Be the person you want others to be...and more likely than not they'll want to be like you. We are sheep after all XD

Edit: I also do not play very much ranked, that may be why people are nicer/less mean

Before S6 I would have said people are nicer in ranked, because on average they are more concerned with winning than raging, so they know not to try and tilt their own teammates. Now not so much.

Your own comments have little to do with gameplay. It's been my experience that starting off w/ "positive" chatter generally leads to less than stellar games, much more-so than a lot of so-called "negative" content.

Personally I want my teammates worried about what I think of them, and what I will say. If they screw up, I want them going "whew" when I fail to point it out. I don't want them to think its "just a game" and "its ok". I want them on point. Focused. No warm and fuzzy feelings, unless its from uncontrollable bloodlust, finally being sated after snagging a penta ;)

ZaryelleMay 10, 20161 votes

I am positive in that if someone starts flaming another person for little or no reason, I will come to the person who is being flamed's defense, like say 'just work together we got this, x champion is having trouble against y' or whatever so everyone will just calm the fuck down. but it's usually one person just flaming the whole game and brings it out in other people.