BEWARE: If you call someone a newb you will be banned even if they are 0:10 b5 with 12 lp

DJ Acceso·2/7/2018, 11:41:43 PM·1 votes·588 views

you there DJ? DJ Acceso yes

sorry

i logged in to see this penalty for a specific game i played and i think you guys are getting a little snow flakey

i played multiple games with no issues except for one

and then i receive a chat ban and a lvl 0 dishonorable

id like to know what part of my text is THAt inflammatory beyond gamer banter.

keep in mind... that OTHER guy initiated it was an all-out flamer

Deme Lovato for sure - i do want to make it clear that negativity is not ok

after the livechat is over

ill go ahead and look into any negative players in the game

and action accordingly DJ Acceso you do realize that no game is 100% negative free?

also in your tips and tricks it shows you acknowledge a little banter is fine... but racial stuff no so much

not*

just let me know which text was worth giving me a chat ban

Deme Lovato again, i get that other players are super tilting

sometimes they're feeding

other times they're being verbally abusive DJ Acceso sure i get that

i played this enough where people tilt all the time

Deme Lovato but oftentimes engaging in negativity ends up contributing to it and that's something we don't want to condone DJ Acceso my problem was the OTHER guy was complaining WHILE tilting

like he fed like a mofo

Deme Lovato retaliation is not an excusable or justifiable action though

name calling, harassing others on their performance, and constantly arguing isn't constructive to the situation and actually just perpetuates the negative environment that others may have set DJ Acceso so which text was harrassing?

lol

Deme Lovato for the same reason you were upset that a player was flaming others and creating a negative experience DJ Acceso it looks so benign

Deme Lovato flaming back at them

is just the same DJ Acceso im asking

which piece warranted it?

Deme Lovato [10:05] DJ Acceso (Kled): ur all too newbb [10:44] DJ Acceso (Kled): new [10:47] DJ Acceso (Kled): is lol [12:10] DJ Acceso (Kled): man [12:15] DJ Acceso (Kled): u guys are so bbad [12:17] DJ Acceso (Kled): jesus [12:26] DJ Acceso (Kled): ekko [12:27] DJ Acceso (Kled): wtf [12:40] DJ Acceso (Kled): i aint helping u anymore [13:23] DJ Acceso (Kled): ekko ur terrible [14:27] DJ Acceso (Kled): man i dont even wanna play this game [14:31] DJ Acceso (Kled): u guys are map dumbb [14:53] DJ Acceso (Kled): yes report me [15:22] DJ Acceso (Kled): u guys cant even read a map [15:53] DJ Acceso (Kled): talon [15:58] DJ Acceso (Kled): maybe mario bros is bbetter for u [16:06] DJ Acceso (Kled): u are so bad [17:29] DJ Acceso (Kled): talon [17:31] DJ Acceso (Kled): u newb [17:37] DJ Acceso (Kled): u are the newbiest of newb [17:40] DJ Acceso (Kled): holy shiat [17:48] DJ Acceso (Kled): u are so bad [17:52] DJ Acceso (Kled): yeah [17:55] DJ Acceso (Kled): and u watched [17:57] DJ Acceso (Kled): like a newb DJ Acceso this looks like typical gamer "meh"

ok

i got my answer

well... look in to his flaming

he was far worse

Deme Lovato again, he's not off the hook DJ Acceso and he is a bronze 5 with 12 lp

Deme Lovato if he was being negative, he'll be action'd on just the same

but we can't dismiss your dialogue as well DJ Acceso my issue is that you state me calling someone newb as harrassment

you will ban everyone from chat right?

if i report it?

i want this guarantee

if i report... because someone calls me a newb that they are chat banned

see what im saying?

Deme Lovato i understand

again, im looking into any negative players from the game

and action'ing accordingly after this

but

i wish i could DJ Acceso one game though?

Deme Lovato we aren't able to share any action that takes place

one game is all it takes

yes DJ Acceso so im a paying customer

Deme Lovato that does not dismiss any negative behavior DJ Acceso and i think this snowflake stuff is getting out of hand

Deme Lovato otherwise

people who paid thousands of dollars DJ Acceso i agree

Deme Lovato could be as toxic as they wanted

without any repercussions DJ Acceso but i think you are going a bit too extreme when i call someone a newb and you chat ban me

Deme Lovato newb

once

sure

when its constantly throughout the entirety of the game DJ Acceso i just heard you dont accept any kind of negativity

so i can do it once?

Deme Lovato that can be destructive

generally, we want chat to be constructive to share strategies and what you're going to be doing in the game DJ Acceso i need some cold hard rules documented about calling people a newb earns a chat ban for a single game

this is getting more and more ridiculous

Deme Lovato anything other than that - like when it's just arguing or calling other people bad or newb - detracts from the game DJ Acceso again context

i think you need to see this guy was flaming me the whole time

Deme Lovato you don't have to engage with other players though

if they are being negative

you cna just mute them right away

focus on the game

and report them afterwards DJ Acceso i dont but i didnt know calling someone a newb was hate speech

Deme Lovato arguing with them leads nowhere postive or neutral

its not hate speech

hate speech would escalate you straight to a two week on your first offense DJ Acceso evidently its enough to silence me and make me dishonroable

thats pretty damn harsh

look at my prior games

i am MOSTLY constructive

Deme Lovato again, that doesn't mean we can dismiss negative behavior that occurs DJ Acceso why the ban hammer on me so hard?

i get it

but that was pretty benign

newb ?

Deme Lovato not specifically just newb again DJ Acceso that earns a bchat ban?

that was your copy and pasted response to my ban

Deme Lovato again, you were calling other people bad, calling them newb, and you were constantly arguing

noen of these things

are positive or neutral or sportsmanlike DJ Acceso omg they were all 0:10

ad is an understatement

bad*

Deme Lovato ya, but that doesn't help your team DJ Acceso none of them helped

nor does that help my case here

you gave me a bunch of people who couldnt fight their way out of a wet paper bag

and they blamed me

and then you wonder why i call them newb?

again i think this was a harsh treatment and a one time event

not worthy of that kind of treatment

you would have to ban everyone if a player called someone else a newb

Deme Lovato and we do take action on players that engage in negative behavior DJ Acceso no

i get responses from my reports of people calling others racial names and 50% are acted upon

...much less the term "newb"

look... if this is where riot wants to go with it i can always go to DOTA

i think this one was wrong

you guys have been right in the past

but this one was so wrong its not even funny

especially with that flamer going off all game

not only that

but others AGREED with me

check that chat log again

Deme Lovato i wish i could give you a better answer here

im specifically not the one who designs the system

im just here providing context on how it works

and why you were escalated to this point

yes, its rough

and ill be taking this feedback to the right channels DJ Acceso i dont care about the system

Deme Lovato but the system was working as intended DJ Acceso im trying to gauge

if this is going to be the new norm

if it is... ill take my support elsewhere

Deme Lovato i can assure you, that this has been the norm DJ Acceso this is not normal

banning someone for calling them a newb in 1 game has NEVEr happened to me before

NEVER EVER

especially to a flaming 12 year old

this is VERY new

Deme Lovato not to you specifically

but i promise you, i've worked this job for awhile

and this has been the norm for punishments DJ Acceso so if i report for someone calling me a newb you will chat ban them after 1 game?

Deme Lovato yes

anytime a player is creating a negative experience for you

please report them

because that's not ok DJ Acceso then why does it only happen for the harshest of abusers?

i get the notifications

Deme Lovato notifications are random

basically

we want to respect the privacy of the account owner DJ Acceso i still think the term "newb" is a gamer term

you wont ban everyone for it

Deme Lovato again, im not the one to discuss that with you DJ Acceso its ingrained in gamer language

Deme Lovato im just providing context of how it works right now DJ Acceso who do i discuss it with?

Deme Lovato boards, reddit, social media

these are channels that the dev team

see and gather feedback about DJ Acceso k im copying this whole convo then

14 Comments

Chermorg2/7/2018, 11:48:07 PM9 votes

I'm confused as to what's unclear.

Harassment, verbal abuse, bullying, and flaming are always unacceptable no matter what the situation is. The support agent tried their hardest to explain to you why you were in the wrong. You cannot excuse your behavior because "everyone else does it" - and to be honest, not everyone else acts this way in games with others.

Jo0o2/7/2018, 11:51:10 PM9 votes

You spent the entire game insulting him, makes sense to me.

Also, holy shit, the formatting of this post is dizzying.

ModPeriscope2/8/2018, 12:18:06 AM2 votes

Why go with the snowflake route? People wouldn't keep playing this game if they were so-called snowflakes and super sensitive.

Bottom line- this chat had very little relevance to the game. People don't want to hear about all of your whining and complaining about how their skill isn't up to your standards. They may have been offended, they may not have been. Most of the time, when I see chat like this, I'm not offended. You're just interested in insulting rather than winning.

Arammus2/8/2018, 4:44:16 AM1 votes

tl:dr?

weird that there are online games that dont consider "noob" an insult since it just means newcomer/amateur which is what we all were/are at some point