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wtf is a ban wave? doesnt that go against riot policies?

Deliberate Feed·1/14/2016, 8:59:08 AM·1 votes·4,068 views

Correct me if I'm wrong but there are people saying that there are instances where riot dish out bans in waves... didn't riot state they wanted instant feedback so that the player can connect his bad behavior to the instant punishment received? didn't they say the more time lag in between those two things, the less effective the player behavior reforming is?

than how can there be a ban wave? instant feedback on bad behavior means ban waves should never be happening.

6 seasons riot. it took you 6 seasons to get your heads on straight and make a system that detects feeders (or so you claim). this past year you put all this emphasis on reducing the time lag between punishment and bad behavior and than apparently there are ban waves? and 6 damn season and there are still IP farming bots playing ARAM games. get ur stuff together once and for all so that those systems would be effective for a long time. that would be efficient.not these small (ineffective) tweaks you do over 6 years while pooling so many resources into skins and other useless junk.

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Deep Terror Nami1/14/2016, 9:21:06 AM15 votes

To elaborate somewhat on why they do it in waves, it's so that the cheaters don't know how or why they are caught. If they slowly ban people as they are found the third party cheat developers will have time to patch it to be undetected for the remaining thousands who weren't caught already. By dropping them all at once they have no chance of slipping away. It also takes time to ensure they are banning the right people; they do not ban people for cheating unless they are 100% certain of it.

Jubbinaut1/14/2016, 9:09:04 AM11 votes

Ban waves are issued for scripting, MMR boosting, illegal 3rd-party programs, and the like. That is to say, they're issued for things that are not or cannot be handled by the current systems.

KarKzz1/14/2016, 9:11:10 AM8 votes

Ban waves are for scripts / hacks. Because once they got a way to identity one, the players using it get banned all at once.

Sarutobi1/14/2016, 9:20:41 AM5 votes

To continue with what the last two people said. They obviously want to know how to detect it clearly. So without trying to worry both the people making the program and using the program it's better to keep it in waves so that no one really knows what causes it. These programs possibly get updated daily and because of the that Riot wants to improve the next time it's upgraded. It would also worry the people making the programs because they'll never know exactly what caused it to trigger the detection.

The sad thing is really the main people who are hurt by this are the players playing against teams that are cheating. As far as I know Riot doesn't do rollbacks, or give some type of compensation towards people who might have been in all games that are using hacks!

ModKnightsKemplar1/14/2016, 5:50:39 PM2 votes

Ban waves are usually employed for specific things like botting.

Ban waves don't apply for typical toxic behavior. You can get banned any time for being a toxic player.

Tract1/14/2016, 8:42:59 PM1 votes

What I(and others) meant by ban wave is that most of the time, they collect large amounts of information on suspected accounts over a period of time. Once they are sure that the account is punishment worthy, then the ban goes out. That is why it seems to be in "waves" since they spend time gathering info and then ban all of them at once, isntaid of just here-and-there bans like toxicity, which will happen very soon after a highly toxic game ends.