Why is boosting tolerated when streamers do it for views?

Goddamn Heretic·11/11/2018, 7:38:55 AM·20 votes·10,362 views

On youtube I constantly see diamond or challenger players announcing that they are playing on a smurf in bronze, either for views, or under the guise of "demonstrating" challenger level macro or whatever, while explaining smugly to the audience how easy it is to do what they do.

How is this different from boosting? How do you think a bronze player would feel knowing their ranked game is basically wasted time since a challenger is playing on the enemy team?

This practice is kind of similar to that scene in the wolf of wall street, when Jordan Belfort is standing in front of that audience of average joes, the very people he screwed over to get rich, the very people he exploited, and telling them they, too, can get rich quick. They aren't angry at him for doing it, they are intrigued, they WANT to be exploited because it allows them to continue believing that they can do it too. Jordan Belfort got his money by defrauding investors. In this same fashion, High elo smurfs are taking advantage of low elo players to make themselves look good and make money off it.

Jordan Belfort's scheme wouldn't work if we didn't share his dream of getting rich quickly. We all want to be just like him. Youtube Smurfs and their audience are no different. They don't think about how they would feel if one of these challenger smurfs was in their game on the other team, because they would rather live vicariously through the calm, confident narrative of a challenger in bronze, wishing they could do that themselves.

How is this not even more depraved than regular boosting?

If these types of videos were legitimate attempts at showing how challenger "Macro" works, as many of the videos claim, and were honest in their presentation, they would let an actual bronze player play a game, and coach them as they play. There are so many things a challenger does that bronze players aren't even remotely aware of; Wave management, cool downs, combos, last hitting, etc. Not only is this clearly exploitative, they are obviously lying. Challenger macro alone is not accomplishing this. it's challenger everything.

28 Comments

disregardable11/11/2018, 7:45:08 AM17 votes

people don't get banned for playing with high elo players.

boosting bans are when you literally give someone access to your account and have them play your games.

Dr Dog11/11/2018, 8:00:09 AM11 votes

playing on a smurf and climbing on it =/= paying to get a better rank in ranked, smurfs are perfectly allowed

ExpStealer11/11/2018, 11:18:29 AM5 votes

Even though you make a great point, this concerns smurfing, not boosting.

ı Sona ı11/11/2018, 8:03:26 AM4 votes

Playing on a new account isn't boosting unless you are playing on the new account for someone else.

Zombie Gerbil11/11/2018, 8:34:34 AM3 votes

Think you misunderstand the banning of Elo Boosters. Players don't get banned for playing with high Elo players and getting boosted by duo'n. Players get banned by elo boosting when players give out their information for them to play on their account to boost them. Sharing information is against the Policy.

Tegash11/11/2018, 6:45:21 PM2 votes

The simple explanation is that you can't boost your own account.

Boosting happens in two forms: you're given access to another person's account and play for them to increase their ranking artificially. Or you duo queue with a lowbie friend (sometimes on a smurf) to artificially increase their rank that way.

Simply playing on a smurf is not a violation of the ToS.

MorgManBasher11/11/2018, 2:20:20 PM2 votes

You don't know what boosting is. You are talking about smurfing, not boosting.

Most smurfs you won't even know are in your games because they are usually jerking off trying to make bad builds work for some dumb video or just having fun. I personally smurf for fun and just play stuff I don't main and/or do off meta builds. Do I still play to win? Yes, but I am not try harding so you probably won't know most games that I am smurfing.

Just look at SoloRenektonOnly, he smurfs all the time doing dumb builds and constantly loses on stream. Like, yeah he still has a decent win rate but he sure as fuck isn't try harding. I see him lose lane to gold/plat players and rage.

AirKingNeo11/12/2018, 1:48:49 AM2 votes

that isn't even under the definition of boosting

just another 'streams bad' thread.

Fini of Legend11/11/2018, 2:22:01 PM1 votes

True, especially since streamers can avoid impacting low elo ranked matches by organizing custom games.

Danksley11/11/2018, 9:03:12 PM1 votes

Anything is tolerated when content creators do it. Consider for a second how a Challenger player gains a bronze Smurf when you consider fresh accounts place in silver. Either they bought it, account shared, or inted.

Lil Unforgiven11/11/2018, 10:24:41 PM1 votes

STFU yo just jealous that u dont have a yt channel and u cant stream. And you are literally saying all this to get views here too. fkin smarty dumbass

Phieldworker11/11/2018, 12:26:33 PM1 votes

A lot of times they are demonstrating that it’s possible to climb and it’s not so much your team that is holding you back but more so yourself (macro play, objective control, match up knowledge, etc). Yes it sucks to go up against someone who’s game knowledge is way better but it’s not impossible to beat them. They just might out play you in lane but if you learn those things (freezing, denying cs etc) you can win it all too.

PurpleYukari11/11/2018, 8:30:09 AM1 votes

I don't think riot tolerates bronze to challenger, if someone is doing something else illegitimate to demonstrate tihs, such as trolling games or account sharing. Here are some rioters speaking on the topic, and I would be surprised if the stance changed:

http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4391004&page=1#post46071270 http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4391004&page=22#post46073826

In regards to smurf accounts, I think the system is designed to quickly find the "challenger" players and have them play with others that are high mmr. Riot doesn't ban alternate accounts, and the problem occurs if people try to circumvent the system.

CharDeeMcDenniz11/11/2018, 8:49:50 AM1 votes

i take it you didn't see the masses of people complaining about being banned for that exact thing like a week ago

Kyaza11/11/2018, 7:49:58 AM1 votes

is probably because playing in a low elo game lets them demonstrate multiple things at a time. for instance wave management, then roaming for picks, then teamfighting and objective control. its much easier to do in a low elo game where you can roflstomp whenever you want. so you have time to actully show what you are trying to demonstrate

dnsup11/11/2018, 7:51:24 AM1 votes

cuz game, riot makes it