Why is trolling not regarded as highly as toxic chat?

Nhifu·1/15/2019, 7:41:50 PM·5 votes·3,621 views

I really dislike how chat restrictions are handed out like candy. But players running it down mid are unstoppable?

Never do I see alerts of a player being punished that obviously int (easily able to read chat of us telling him to please stop, or please stop voting no in surrender etc)

40 Comments

PH451/15/2019, 7:49:49 PM16 votes

I really dislike how chat restrictions are handed out like candy. But players running it down mid are unstoppable?

It isn't about that trolling is more tolerated, the thing is that chat toxicity is just easier to monitor. Trolling is not as simple to monitor. Chat toxicity can easily be checked from the chat logs and boom, done. Trolling is a bit more difficult. Sure running it down mid all game is really easy to detect and most of these players are picked up after first offence, but people who ''soft-int'' are far more difficult to catch. Simple KDA check doesn't work, as some people can just have really bad games and end up banned that way.

Never do I see alerts of a player being punished that obviously int

You see alerts quite rarely in general, cause the notification is really unreliable.

GatekeeperTDS1/15/2019, 8:03:39 PM10 votes

Hi. I see some things in your match history -

  • 2/8 as Zilean
  • 2/11 as Thresh
  • 0/8 as Thresh
  • 3/13 as Katarina
  • 3/12 as Katarina

Were you running it down mid on these games, or were they bad games?

Do you see what I did there? I made the assumption that you were "trolling" in these games just because you did poorly. Everyone has their own definition of intentionally feeding, usually people accuse others of inting because they had bad scores. I'm pretty sure you weren't inting in these games from your history, but who knows? Should you be banned?

Chat-based offenses are very easy to detect. Intentionally feeding does get punished, but as I said in another thread today, I've been playing this game since the end of Season 1. Out of thousands and thousands of games, I've encountered maybe dozens of TRUE inters, but thousands of toxic jerks. True intentional feeding is not as bad as some people make it out to be.

You had some bad games, that's OK. Having bad games is not against the rules.

Jamaree1/15/2019, 7:51:52 PM8 votes

Because "trolling" is far too broad of a term and doesn't have any hard conclusion on such a matter. IWD says that every person who does poorly in his games is trolling or inting, should they all be banned?

Or how about you, when you went 3/10 with Kayle, were you trolling, should you be banned?

We also have cases where someone doing something like that once isn't enough to get a ban, nor should it be, a system that like is far too harsh.

Also, because monitoring chat is far easier then catching "trolls".

rujitra1/15/2019, 8:02:39 PM5 votes

Players “running it down mid” are consistently punished.

Players who are actively trying the game and just fail miserably are not going to be punished just for playing badly, or not wanting to surrender.

Heraimish1/15/2019, 8:24:52 PM4 votes

it's much easier to find out if someone is toxic (chat logs) then to find out if someone is trolling. How do you differ between 'having a bad game' and 'trolling'? In challenger games, tiny mistakes can already lose you the game but in bronze mistakes are made all the time.

Juyish1/15/2019, 7:49:36 PM2 votes

I miss the tribunal, back when the community had a say lol, nows it just ghost-AI

Arcade Lulu1/15/2019, 7:52:40 PM2 votes

Because toxicity totally affects games worse than trolling and inting ^-^

Of course the 10/2 Jax who's carrying your team and is being very toxic is worse for the game than the 0/15 inting Yasuo

ModArticus431/15/2019, 11:25:58 PM2 votes

I pinned PH45's response because it is genuinely the most concise and accurate answer. I'd also add two things to their explanation:

  1. You can always manually submit a ticket with evidence and you'll at least get confirmation that the case is being reviewed. Like PH45 and others noted, it is exceptionally easier to prove toxicity via chat than it is via review because reviewing in-game is so much more resource dependent.
  2. The IFS (Instant Feedback System) only returns to the player whose report triggers the system.

I don't believe it is a perfect system. It is a functional system. Rioters would rather a guilty player keep playing than an innocent player be punished.

Aladoron1/16/2019, 11:55:23 AM1 votes

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Nhifu1/15/2019, 10:36:15 PM1 votes

90% of the replies are literally people talking about players that are having bad games, when I legitimately posted that there are players that OBVIOUSLY int.

But they're smart and stop at 8 deaths, spam surrender and play hide and seek in the jungle.

It's like when a teemo player queues top, then hides by baron until his team loses. Literally nothing you can do to that guy lol