Will you ever unban permanet accounts?

EPM RITO STONER·6/10/2018, 8:58:48 PM·2 votes·6,303 views

well , i´ve been playing league for quite awile now , and i've come to say that, atsome point i raged and cursed alot and i got serious consequeces with this, i love this game and its why i kept playing after the happenings , i realised it is bad to rage and flame and be a toxic person , its bad for myself , and for others around me , because they were taking my stupidness with them , so i became more calm about it , and really not taking game the serious , but taking it also (ranked maches) , i really think people deserve a second chance on their acc's , now there is more ways to controll afk misbehaviors and flame . please give it a go sincerely , epm

28 Comments

Raeyxx6/10/2018, 9:13:13 PM4 votes

The thing about permanent bans is just that. They're permanent. They're meant to be dreaded. If they ever backtracked on permabans (sans ones made in error), the fear of such things happening would lose its edge.

Nine Realms6/10/2018, 9:01:45 PM4 votes

Riot said that they're not lifting an ban on perma-banned accs under any circumstances somewhere.

TheEvilQueen1356/10/2018, 9:13:00 PM4 votes

the second chance is the 14 day ban

ModPrandine6/10/2018, 9:48:57 PM3 votes

No. Once an account is validly permabanned it is gone for good, and not even pros or popular streamers have gotten any of their permabanned accounts back. Why? Because there has to be some lasting penalty and reminder that actions have consequences. From the Tribunal FAQ:

**Why can’t you give permanent banned players a second chance? You will receive a better player. ** Actually, this is the unfortunate problem. Allowing permanently banned players another chance is an extremely damaging cost. Do you know what the success rate of the Level 20 Challenge was? 5%. Do you know that for each person, they clearly outlined the toxic behaviors and had 1 on 1 conversations with the players to try to improve their behavior? These are players that were hand-picked by Player Support staff because they felt the pleas from these players were genuine. The success rate was still 5%.

Do you know how many games on average these players played? 100 games / month. When a permanently banned player fails to reform, they are creating miserable experiences for hundreds, maybe thousands of players a month. That's not a cheap cost or a low risk and we cannot consciously justify that, for the sake of the rest of our players.

These days players have at least 3 chances to reform (1 if given a 14-day ban for a zero-tolerance policy violation) before being permabanned, with the possibility of more if a player is able to improve their behavior before reaching that point. If that's not enough then Riot doesn't want you playing anymore. That said, Riot can't stop people from making new accounts, so if you truly want to prove you're reformed then do so on your other account. Oh, and before you or someone else tries to bring the money argument into this, to quote Kei143:

When Riot permabans someone, their philosophy is "the chances of this guy reforming isn't a whole lot, we'd rather not have him in the game". Thus in their eyes, they have already written off the toxic player as a paying client.

From a business standpoint, do they want to remove the toxic guy who has spent $500 but is causing a negative environment for 4-9 other players in every game? Those non-toxics are also spending $500 and probably will spend more, promote the game more when they are enjoying the game AND they won't cause a negative environment.

I personally think it is a fine argument to protect the ones that are paying money and aren't toxic rather than protecting the ones that may pay the same amount but are toxic.

BeatzBoyFTW6/10/2018, 9:04:26 PM3 votes

Chat restrictions & 14 days suspensions are considered 2nd chances. Permabanned accounts will never be released unless if there's an error on Riot's side.

Kei1436/10/2018, 9:22:32 PM2 votes

Ever? Maybe in the far future.

Current policy and near future? No.

Hammermancer6/10/2018, 9:20:18 PM1 votes

There is a method in which you can prove yourself to be reformed

but you need a long period of evidence and you need clean records on whatever your other account is

Rysophage6/10/2018, 11:09:05 PM1 votes

No stop being toxic

SuIIivan3/12/2019, 11:43:54 PM1 votes

Why not give the players with perm bans an option to buy there account back under the concept of next time ban actions are taken the account gets deleted completely from the database and seize to exists. This concept makes riot money gives a player the chance to reform with the note that the next time they goof its deemed gone forever. I am a game owner myself so this to me sounds like a smarter way of profiting everyone's case. If you show no mercy to the players, how can you expect to receive mercy from your players its a contradiction in theory.

Neko Siren3/13/2019, 12:41:45 AM1 votes

I got my main account unperma banned through a manual review. Second chances DO happen.

bluefire mark 24/5/2019, 5:15:10 AM1 votes

Not like unbanning is going to cause more toxic people in the community, we just make new accounts anyway >.> so they should "jailbreak" accounts sometimes

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