What am I supposed to say to someone who flames the team?

Warhawk373·12/13/2016, 6:42:39 AM·1 votes·842 views

When the whole team feeds (including me) then we inevitably loose, wtf are these people thinking when they blame it on one or two people. Having 5 kills doesn't mean anything if you also have 10 deaths. As far as I'm concerned, someone who goes 5/10 did just as bad as someone who wen't 0/10. Those 5 kills are not going to help if the whole team has more than 10 deaths. Will league community ever become not toxic? Like can we lower the ff timer to 10 minutes and only require 3 votes instead of 4, at least for normals, that would increase my enjoyment so much more. If I KNEW 100% we would win, but I had to deal with a toxic kid for 30 minutes, I would still rather ff. Its to the point where I would rather play a different game than risk being stuck with someone who thinks blaming everyone except their-self is how you get better.

I know this is just a rant but seriously if someone who has any power to recommend stuff to riot sees this, please make it easier to surrender in blind pick.

13 Comments

OnlyYouCanHearMe12/13/2016, 7:31:05 AM2 votes

I dont like to argue with my teammates, but if they are unnecessarily or unfairly flaming someone on the team, I will usually try and say something in that person's defense.

As an example, I had a match earlier tonight, where our top laner was being camped by the enemy jungler. He was trying his best, but by a few minutes in, he had died twice and they were pushing on the turret. Our jungler wasn't able to help because he was invaded level two and killed at the golems. And then when he respawned and tried to take the scuttle crab, the midlaner and jungler both collapsed onto him to kill him again. This happened so many times, that he was falling behind pretty far, and having to focus on trying to farm just to catch up in levels.

When the top turret fell, the top laner got pretty angry and started complaining about how the jungler had never ganked for him. But he'd been so busy with his own struggles, that he hadn't noticed how much trouble our jungler had been having. I noticed it, because as the support, I have to be watching the map for those sorts of things, and because a few of the times happened on bot side and when the jungler pinged for help, we had started trying to rotate.

It didn't seem right to me for the top laner to just start harassing the jungler, when he literally couldn't have done anything to help. He was too far behind after the two initial kills, which were before the 4 minute mark. So, I stepped in to say something. I just pointed out how far behind the jungler was because of the invades/camps, and that the jungler was even farther behind than the top laner! I don't think the top laner believed me, but he must have looked at the scoreboard, because he immediately stopped saying anything about the jungler. I also made a point of complimenting the top laner during the match, so that he wouldn't feel like he was just being disregarded or singled out. After all, it's a team game, and we needed all of us.

This sort of thing doesn't always work. If someone is too angry, or just too stubborn, it can be very difficult to diffuse them. But it never hurts to try a bit of diplomacy. As long as you are being polite, and not insulting or arguing with them, you're not violating the rules. And if it doesn't work, you can always just mute them.

Myrmiron12/13/2016, 7:33:49 AM2 votes

Best response to any flaming anywhere is /mute all. I find this also makes me play better since I don't get distracted by he chat anymore.

Morality Coach12/13/2016, 7:16:39 AM1 votes

In blind pick you hit em with 2 BMs then ignore em rest of the game.

Sona Ping12/13/2016, 6:58:16 AM1 votes

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What am I supposed to say to someone who flames the team?

Nothing.

Kartac Magewrigh12/13/2016, 4:30:44 PM1 votes

RIot has made their stance quite clear: you cannot say anything. You cannot defend yourself, you cannot defend your team mates, nor try to raise morale by telling people to ignore the guy. Flamers have protection of Riot to rally team into reporting someone, and there is nothing you can do to it.

deathgod512/13/2016, 11:57:14 AM1 votes

When going even/winning: "Dw we got this". If the answer is more incomprehensible blarbl, mute him.

If steering toward the inevitable loss: Say nothing and mute the guy.

Brutalitops0112/13/2016, 7:06:26 AM1 votes

The surrender timer is being lowered to 15 minutes, but between 15 and 20 minutes, you have to have all 5 vote "yes." After 20 minutes, it's back down to 4 like usual. This isn't on live yet, and just something Riot has talked about doing soon. Source.

Also, can I just say that I don't think the surrender feature should exist at all. It allows people to have the mindset of giving up, which is a very dangerous mindset to have if you want to win and overall generates toxicity, as Jeremy said in the video I linked above.

Last thing, you know there's a mute button, right? I'm very liberal with it when I get these stupid toxic people on my team or on the enemy team.