Playing Jungle is the most unforgiving role ever.

Uriel·8/15/2018, 6:20:16 PM·5 votes·3,255 views

Note: These problems can easily be solved by simply typing /Mute All (or the player's name). I strongly recommend that people do this for preventing distraction, though this topic is about the problem, as hiding from it with /mute doesn't solve it.

Everyone that has played Jungle with no premades comes across this problem in a multiple occasion; you lock in as a jungler that you know well, to dominate the enemy's team and carry your team to victory. But we also have those games that just tilt us so much, when it isn't (only) the enemy team that fights against you, but also your own team itself. There are some big problems when it comes down to player behavior, that makes locking in as jungler become a mentally hard challenge, and turn into the biggest unthankfully played role in the game.

Problem 1: People think their lane is the only lane in the game. Since you play a jungler, you don't play on a lane itself. Instead, your playfield is the area between all the lanes, as well as the rivers. Though, as a Jungler it's your role to help your lanes give that extra power to win their lane and proceed taking down the enemy turret(s). However, this soon starts to transcend into a differen't problem; Laners (especially in low elo) are tunnel-visionned. And I don't mean to aggrovate anyone, but it is a fact that the a notable portion of players only think about 4 roles; Themselves, their enemy laner(s), their jungler, and you. And if you can't show up to meet their needs/demands, they start to blame you for losing their lane. But what they don't know, is that a jungler is a player themselves too. As a jungler you need gold/CS as well to buy items, and there is more than just one lane to divide your attention to.


Problem 2: The lane wasn't already playing properly, yet somehow it's still your fault. Another problem I frequently see pass by is that a lane gets camped. This differs with a lot of junglers; Junglers with high reach or CC usually spam top, junglers with a low early-game clear or duelling power usually camp mid. Grouphug junglers usually camp bot. And whilst it's true that a camped lane is a lost lane, there are more problems to that lane that are not related to your absence, such as;

  • Your lane is way too aggressive
  • Your lane doesn't respect vision or wards insufficiently
  • Your lane doesn't know how to play safe, stay in lane with low health, or don't use a turret as a safezone

And who gets the fault? You, for not showing up while their jungler always does. Even if I play jungle and I see someone playing recklessly, I'd go there to harvest some extra gold to carry. It's common sense to do.


Problem 3: Your laners expect you to help them, but they never help you (except for a leash.) A problem very notable in low elo, as mentioned in point 1 too, was that players tend to be very tunnel visioned. Whilst it can be argued the heat of a duel inside the lane can sometimes make it impossible to commit to helping you in need, most of the cases when an enemy jungler or laner is invading your jungler, you're there alone. Communication is a big lack in the lowest ranks, but even in higher ranks people won't come to your aid if you end up in a one-versus-two/three. So from that point, only two things can happen; you flee, and lost a big portion of farm, or you die, and still lose a big portion of farm. To add insult to injury even, people also constantly tend to take your camps as well. While it's understandable that there can sometimes be that request to get a blue buff so their lane can push faster, it has in many occasions come to such a degree that they do this as if the Jungler doesn't exist, or 'probably wouldn't need it anyway'.

In short, playing Jungler is in the current playerbase behavior regarded as playing a drive-by or safety net. People expect you to work according to their needs and demands, and when they need something from you, they just take it for granted and don't take in consideration you're a fifth actual player. People also usually point at the jungler as a scapegoat whenever their lane isn't going according to plan. It puts junglers in such a stressfull position that makes games often the most tilting experiences, it's distracting and having flaming laners makes it less attractive to helping them, escalating only into conterproductivity and distraction in the game.

7 Comments

Doge20208/15/2018, 6:43:23 PM3 votes

Yeah I feel you man. It’s kinda the same for top and supp. People in my elo (silver) don’t usually understand what a splitpush champ does. When my team is behind I tell them to play safe, not fight, and ONLY clear waves. And as soon as I say that they go into a 4v5 fight, die then blame me for not being there. They don’t really understand that the point of a splitpush champ is for me to be pushed up to draw enemies away from my team. And they don’t understand to stop pushing when there is a majority of the team MIA.

MessingWorlds8/17/2018, 2:21:43 AM1 votes

Jungler is free-roam role. Whatever happens is up to you. Honestly, just choose how you want to pop out and back in as the jungler. Never showing up to a lane makes you pretty powerful already.

You can handle all lanes from the jungle, if you are up to it.

theChibiTina8/17/2018, 12:50:51 PM1 votes

Having a friend who mains jungle and having been in the jungle position myself (albeit poorly done lol), I have the outmost respect for junglers. My problem is with some of the junglers in low elo. The ones that don't gank anywhere or apply any pressure on the map at all and every lane is losing and pushed up to their towers. Then when complained to they just respond with "it's not the jungler's job to win your lane for you." No, it's not, but it is the junglers job to help out and apply pressure in between farming their camps. I understand that some jungle champs are mid-late game and have to focus more on farming early, but if it's 10-15 minutes in, every lane is pushed into a good gank position (backed up to turret) because every lane is losing, and you haven't ganked a single lane then of course people are going to be upset. I do feel bad for junglers who are doing they're job, but are getting flamed because one single lane is losing though. If the jungler doesn't gank because they're behind (either because of teammates taking camps and starving jungler or getting invaded) that's a different story, but most of the time I find it's because they've been doing nothing but hard farming and are just plain refusing to help (it is low elo after all).

IPERFECTO8/18/2018, 6:35:02 AM1 votes

This topic actually triggered me hard.... 1st of all , muting all as a jungler is the WORST THING you can do , if you see that someone flames you just mute them manually. 2nd you’re right there is 3 lanes in the game, not only yours...BUT, when i see someone’s like lee or shaco with 0/0/0 score at al,ost 20 min mark I can’t understand why does this guy even picks this champs? You miss one thing - clear speed some champs have their legit strat as powerfarm ( yi , shyv, udyr, etc) since they are not that strong early and their clear speed is good so they won’t fall off without tanking , but if you afk farm on someone like amummu, twitch, seju, mao , Elise or other kind of high early impact junglers you’re asking to lose. People can’t understand that they get MORE GOLD FROM GANKING THAN FARM BECAUSE OF THEIR POOR CLEAR SPEED AND EVEN IF THEY FARM WELL( twitch is exception) THEY WON’T DO WHOLE LOT IN THE LATE GAME this kinda of champions need to put a pressure on enemy laners if they want to win . And also it’s not always players fault for being camped , and also sometimes if you don’t play aggressive you’ll lose by default ( scaling champs like veig, Nasus, etc) and if your laner tells you that he’s being camped and you didn’t won other lane or didn’t countermand him, you got outjungled were not in the meta where jungler...heck, even adcs can’t just stay and afk farm for eternity to scale up. So, instead of blaming layers on everything and mute all try to focus on your own macro and improve