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Brother got account banned/Farewell Letter

KyleTheConqueror·6/10/2018, 7:05:40 PM·1 votes·1,694 views

So this is going to sound ridiculous, but I let my younger brother play on my account this summer. He's 14 turning 15, and he came out of his room to tell me that he got me permabanned. On an account that I have been playing on for over 5 years is gone. The hundreds of dollars that I have spent, The hours and work that I have put into this game, and the amount of slaps to the face from my mother because I couldn't just quit an online game.

I was previously banned back in february for toxicity, but to fix that I installed a hot key to prevent me from seeing chat and typing in game. All was going well from there. I wouldn't say a word in game, and if I did, it was very minimum. I was trying to become a more positive player by only typing when things were going well. I was slowly gaining all my honor back and I was working really hard towards being a better player because I knew my last ban was going to end me. Over the past 4 years, the system was really lenient on me until the past 6 months. I don't know what changed, but I would take month long breaks ever since Fortnite and Overwatch came out. I don't know what really changed on here in season 7.

Anyways, here's how I got banned: This summer was the first summer I had since I started college. I didn't have a summer after my senior year because I took the summer semester. I decided not to take any classes this summer because I really wanted to focus some time on making music with my friends, watching the dogs, going out with the fam, etc. Out of nowhere, my friend told me a job offer from his neighbor. It was $15/hr from 7am-3pm monday through friday for general contracting. So all week,i'm busting down walls, painting, chipping tile, and putting together doors, ramps, and just about anything you can think of. All this work ends me with $600 every week for the next 3 months.

With work during the day and hanging with friends during the night til 12-3am, I have had no time to play video games these past few weeks, and I was hungry to climb into gold for the first time this season (I haven't tried so much since season 6...). With no way to really split my team between work, friends, and league, my younger brother offered to play for me. I should have known is was a bad idea, but he only ever talks on the mic with his friends and it doesn't sound toxic or negative in any ways. I told him to get me to gold V, and he said he would. I gave him this task for this past week. He was telling me that players were toxic and that he was getting a lot of honors. I felt a little more at ease hearing this considering my record of not getting honors at all (usually because I'm never the best player on the team...). So I'm making money and music while my brother is playing League of Legends.

Now we come to today, where I'm setting up the garage with room to move so my boss can get in and out with our broken water heater. Yesterday I was fixing the A/C and cleaning the rest of the house, so it was natural for my mom to ask me to do the second hardest task for today. Cole has been binging league of legends for the past few days, and I trusted his ability to get me climbing. At about 2:00pm today, He told me that I need to see something. Right as he was about to enter a game, a notification popped up on his screen. I knew exactly what it was when I read it, and I yelled "WHAT DID YOU DO!?" He started freaking out cause he knows I'm going to be pissed. I relog back in on his computer, and BOOM! PERMABANNED! I read the chats, and my brother had been toxic over the past few games! I can't blame him, however, because the whole chat was being toxic towards him. I started to read this and thought how he was subject to this banning!? Then it hit me: He was the jungler. Players we're getting pissed at him because he wasn't ganking lanes, and he told them to "look around" at every other lane.

Seeing my account of four years banned has distraught me, but it opened my eyes a little more. I realized that the reporting system in league of legends is redundant, unfair, sensitive, and mistreating. All the other competitive games that I see getting popular (Fortnite, Overwatch, upcoming COD games, and many more) do not share the same system that league of legends has, and their communities are less toxic. My brother was telling me that he would report players in his games, and would get notified of punishments almost 3 times a day! It's funny because I posted something about that a long while ago and felt the system was abusive. As I compare all these other games with the same competitive qualities that league of legends has, the one thing that stuck out was that all these other games are balanced. Players could have the same level of toxicity as they would in league, stuck in a game as long as league, but still manage to be less toxic than they are in league.

The best explanation I can give for why league is failing is because RIOT expects players to be optimistic about losing games. In a 5v5, it only takes one feeder to really create an imbalance of gold, giving the other team an advantage. It takes less skill to be the team with gold than it does to be the team without gold because the team with gold doesn't have to worry about losing. Of course you have games where it just doesn't go well later on for the winning team, but it's usually because they were outskilled by the original losing team. In higher elos, I think it becomes a better playing field for everyone to be more optimistic and less toxic because they're more equal in skill they any other elo. This could be a terrible explanation, but in basic terms, 5v5 is only fair when there is a fair playing ground. The best example of this is probably ARAM. Wins in ARAM are dependent on the best team comp and skills that the whole team can use together. One death isn't going to make the game any harder.

League of Legends will probably be my favorite game for the long run, but I am highly disappointed with the community. There will never be a game without multiple toxic players. I know you californian's believe in a communist utopia, but the real world does not have happy people in hard times. Your system for punishing player is too sensitive, especially when my little brother didn't start the toxic brawls nor did he say anything worse than anyone else. I would rather get myself banned than my brother doing it for me, and I know there are worse things to have been said. I'm sorry for being a part of a community of petty players. Trust me, we're all petty now and then - some more than others. Even the tiniest things will tilt us and make us look for any reason to report another player. I'm sorry for the players who have been banned before me for their toxicity, knowing that nearly all of them aren't bad people. I warn players after me to take my story in consideration as a reason to not trust anyone with your account nor trust your teammates. Play your own game, ignore the chat, avoid saying anything, and the thought/speech police won't come after you.

KyleTheConqueror, Signing out for one last time ;'(

Preseason 2014 (Jinx) - June 10th, 2018 (Pyke) My birthday is June 18th, so this is more depressing that it could've been ;'([cass-cry]

23 Comments

Zombie Gerbil6/10/2018, 7:13:18 PM15 votes

You guys did do something wrong, but no matter how hard you try to make your story sympathetic, the board will only want to see one thing if you want to discuss your ban. We don't want your claim or your concept of what happened. All we want is the Chat-logs if we're going to debate what you did wrong or discuss what went wrong.

Sorry, but there's nothing to feel sorry for or feel for. Also, sharing your account is against ToU, so even being brothers, you were breaking the rules. You shouldn't be disappointed with anyone but yourself. Because after all, you did break the rules and get banned.

The reporting is not unfair but is justice and it's definitely not sensitive, it doesn't dispute, and it doesn't judge who you are. It simply takes what you said, that is offensive, negative, and inflammatory and give you a penalty. If you made it through all your penalties, then you deserve it. Nothing is depressing about this, but Riot doing their job. Which is what we're grateful for.

ModThe Djinn6/10/2018, 8:04:42 PM9 votes

Unfortunately, there are two things here that are very important to judging the fairness of this:

  • Account sharing is against the terms of use, and subject to an immediate permanent ban.
  • You receive at least one warning prior to a permanent ban, and often 2-3 warnings. If your brother didn't tell you about previous punishments, or if he (or both of you) chose to ignore them and not change your behavior, that is unfortunate, but not Riot's fault.

Your system for punishing player is too sensitive, especially when my little brother didn't start the toxic brawls nor did he say anything worse than anyone else.

Riot punishes toxicity in both perpetrators and responders, but if you do not respond with toxicity and report the offenders, they will get strikes against them and you will not. If you do respond with toxicity, you will both get strikes against you. There is no free pass to break the rules with impunity just because someone else did it first.

The best explanation I can give for why league is failing is because RIOT expects players to be optimistic about losing games.

They really don't. They just expect you not to take out your frustration on other players.

There will never be a game without multiple toxic players.

I personally see this regularly, although I am sorry you have not had the same experience.

Best of luck with your future gaming endeavors.

Pika Fox6/10/2018, 7:59:03 PM4 votes

While i feel sorry for you for the ban, i feel no sympathy for your thoughts that somehow the punishment system in LoL is "unfair". Toxicity is toxicity. If they were being dicks to your brother, your brother had the ability to mute them and report them. "Look Around" wont get you banned. A lot more was said than just that, and im inclined to believe it was well deserved. Especially at the perma level instead of the 14 day level.

Plus he was playing ranked on your account. Already something that can be punished.

Imperial Pandaa6/10/2018, 7:17:08 PM3 votes

So, did your brother say they were being toxic to him first or something? Because we know the logs on contain what he said.

You were at risk of punishment for account sharing anyways.

TheEvilQueen1356/10/2018, 9:10:49 PM2 votes

like others said, you could've been perma banned either way. if someone figured out you were account sharing thats insta perma. and your brother is responsible for his reactions and you are responsible for your account. sorry man

Sona Ping6/10/2018, 7:30:23 PM2 votes

You are in an arcade, two people are arguing and yelling insults at each other.

Which one is being an awful burden to everyone and which one is bravely defending himself from"toxicity"?

I get that it's your brother, but he is taking advantage and shifting the responsibility of the shitty thing he did to you.

Kei1436/10/2018, 9:03:38 PM2 votes

While your assessment of how the works is incorrect ( the system is very fair), your advice of what you realise on how to treat your account is spot on.

If you do decide to return, remember to apply what you learnt.

Infernape6/10/2018, 7:18:03 PM1 votes

And this is why you never trust ANYONE with your username and password to any of your accounts.

thefourtysn6/10/2018, 7:34:21 PM1 votes

Why in the world would u let him play?!?!? Literally I would never let my brother play, and this is all on you. You caused your ban, and all the mistakes is on you. You think League is toxic? It's because it's a competitive game, unlike Fornite, but OverWatch is way more toxic then League.