Intentional feeding should be a permaban from ranked, no questions asked.

kolpy99·10/28/2016, 3:38:24 PM·27 votes·1,538 views

At least for the season.

I get that "everyone has bad days", but playing bad and being upset about it and intentional feeding are two completely different things.

Someone who intentionally feeds has one goal, to make your team lose.

That has no place in ranked gameplay.

If someone intentionally feeds, they ARE going to do it again. Not tomorrow, maybe not the next day, maybe not a week after being suspended for it. But they will, EVENTUALLY, do it again.

The only way I see to prevent this is to have a VERY harsh punishment for it.

There are some accounts where I can see 3-4 games in the past 20 that were most-likely intentional feeding.

The main problem comes from smurf accounts, where they don't have to care if they get banned or not.

24 Comments

Sarutobi10/28/2016, 5:06:44 PM7 votes

But then how will the system know the differences between someone just having a bad game and someone who intentionally feeds? Ive seen people report others for very vague reasons with their main point being that they fed. Are you just going to go by scores, or would it be very intense research? Because if you go by scores innocent people are going to get ban. If you look deeper into it, then you can bet you wont get instant results. The system would need to basically mind read that this person is intentionally feeding and not just having a bad game. Remember its not so obvious when people feed intentionally. They arent always going to claim it in chat either, so what do we do with cases like that?

Zero00010/28/2016, 6:41:49 PM2 votes

The only way I see to prevent this is to have a VERY harsh punishment for it.

Then why are you asking for a lighter punishment? At the moment there is "14 day ban" and after that "perma ban" for "Intentional feeding"

and why is it okay to do it in normal games?

AdeBug10/28/2016, 6:18:39 PM1 votes

With all the smurfs goin around, some even admitting they're tanking their elo to keep being able to boost their friend, I totally agree.

Cabruh10/28/2016, 6:21:03 PM1 votes

Its not fair to people who want to climb. The excuse for smurfs is "well, if youre good then you shouldnt be in this elo anyway" Yeah, i may not be as good as you but maybe i might be good enough to get out of silver if you werent playing.

Backup4now10/28/2016, 6:43:48 PM1 votes

The systems in place already detect intentional feeding and punish them VERY quickly and VERY harshly. Look at Shaclone: He intentional feeds once and 10 seconds after the match gets an immediate 14 day ban. Keep in mind, the next time the system detects obvious intentional feeding, it's probably a PERMANENT ban.

TrulyBland10/28/2016, 8:10:42 PM1 votes

I strongly disagree with the title of your post, and this part of it:

If someone intentionally feeds, they ARE going to do it again. Not tomorrow, maybe not the next day, maybe not a week after being suspended for it. But they will, EVENTUALLY, do it again.

People change, people have bad days, etc. etc. They already start with 14-day bans, meanining they only get one additional chance before getting permabanned completely. And I'm certain a lot of the benefit of doubt that players would normally get, regarding the feeder buster, is probably flying out the window after the first "conviction". Plus, the "real" trolls, the kind of people that really just don't care about punishment? They're not even really affected by this, as you point out yourself. They use smurf accounts, so permabans of any kind pose no threat to this type of player.

Plus, Riot has issued instant permabans for feeding in the past. It's all a question of how extreme it is and maybe sometimes how obvious it is a smurf account with the sole purpose of trolling. If there is a good chance for somebody to reform, why would you risk pissing them off so hard that they turn into the type of player you can't properly control?

Now all that said, I voted yes on your poll. A season ranked ban seems appropriate. If we remove the season rewards (and thus the main point for ranked play) for boosters for one season when they are caught, I think it's appropriate to ban intentional feeders from ranked for one season. I mean, ultimately both are a way of consistently skewing the ranked system... just that in one case you can take away the specific motivation for the behaviour rather than access to the entire thing.

KVbqbFsC8e10/28/2016, 8:26:34 PM1 votes

It shouldn't matter whether its intentional or not in Ranked. Although I really disagree with that being worthy of a season long ban, it should be maybe a 3 hour ranked ban or extra LP loss, something like that.

WolfInTheNight10/29/2016, 1:35:33 AM1 votes

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scazzman10/29/2016, 7:38:18 AM1 votes

Inting IF YOU GET CAUGHT. should be an instant permaban, it should skip the 14 day ban step completely. if i would be chat restricted for telling them to fuck off. they should be instantly permabanned for actively trying to tank my elo

CrazyBear198710/29/2016, 7:58:18 AM1 votes

I agree to the point if you have currently have a 14 day ban or any chat suspension, you can't participate in Ranked matches. Restricted to normals or custom games until cleared of any penalties. Doesn't make sense that some players, who already have chat restriction are still apple to troll and int feed in ranked games effecting others. Like getting a Red card or yellow cards (soccer) you are suspended and can't join league matches etc. Even if they are "recently reported" good or bad, should be restricted from ranked games for 2-3 hours. But not insta banned, at least not the word i use.

Keevur10/29/2016, 9:23:54 AM1 votes

Do what DotA does and make a literal ELO hell where they put toxic players with other people who are constantly reported for being toxic, feeding, etc etc. It mostly works.

ShinkoMinori10/28/2016, 4:08:22 PM1 votes

But how else am I gonna derank and shit and giggles?

Troll Slaiyer10/29/2016, 11:22:08 PM1 votes

sometimes you just gotta get back at the community

IsoVhell10/28/2016, 4:13:13 PM1 votes

And in here the forums as well they should start banning people for trolling and not taking posts seriously or harassing!