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Where Harassment Starts [A Simple Guide]

ModThe Djinn·10/29/2018, 12:07:48 AM·64 votes·18,208 views

This is somewhat stolen and rephrased from a post I saw on Imgur previously, but it's very relevant to League.

  • When someone says or does something unintentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is rude.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is mean.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally or unintentionally hurtful and they keep doing it after realizing that it is hurtful, that is harassment.

You can be rude in League if it happens only rarely. Hell, you can even be a bit mean sometimes -- everyone gets frustrated, and the system has a bit of leeway built in as long as you're not egregious about it and don't do it often.

When you keep doing something you know is offensive, hurtful, or unwanted, however, you have crossed the line into harassment. This is true whether you're insulting someone's mother, or simply continually pointing out their low CS score when you know it's meant to bother them or embarrass them.

110 Comments

DeerGreenwood10/29/2018, 12:45:20 AM25 votes

shut your mouth you mediocre clarinet player

Unker13910/29/2018, 12:20:06 AM13 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mdXRUffl,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-29T00:07:48.817+0000)

This is somewhat stolen and rephrased from a post I saw on Imgur previously, but it's very relevant to League.

  • When someone says or does something unintentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is rude.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is mean.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally or unintentionally hurtful and they keep doing it after realizing that it is hurtful, that is harassment.

You can be rude in League if it happens only rarely. Hell, you can even be a bit mean sometimes -- everyone gets frustrated, and the system has a bit of leeway built in as long as you're not egregious about it and don't do it often.

When you keep doing something you know is offensive, hurtful, or unwanted, however, you have crossed the line into harassment. This is true whether you're insulting someone's mother, or simply continually pointing out their low CS score when you know it's meant to bother them or embarrass them.

My kids grade school uses the same quote except bullying is used instead of harassment but the idea is the same.

BeatleZzz10/29/2018, 12:27:26 AM9 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mdXRUffl,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-29T00:07:48.817+0000)

This is somewhat stolen and rephrased from a post I saw on Imgur previously, but it's very relevant to League.

  • When someone says or does something unintentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is rude.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is mean.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally or unintentionally hurtful and they keep doing it after realizing that it is hurtful, that is harassment.

You can be rude in League if it happens only rarely. Hell, you can even be a bit mean sometimes -- everyone gets frustrated, and the system has a bit of leeway built in as long as you're not egregious about it and don't do it often.

When you keep doing something you know is offensive, hurtful, or unwanted, however, you have crossed the line into harassment. This is true whether you're insulting someone's mother, or simply continually pointing out their low CS score when you know it's meant to bother them or embarrass them.

Upvoted for truth. That's why you can tell an annoying toxic player "shut the fuck up" and NOT get chat restricted if that's the ONLY thing you say and everything else is standard stuff like "good job" or "Baron" or "Push" or "Rotate" and ggwp and glhf.

Saying "shut the fuck up" is not zero tolerance.

Just don't do it all the time.

ModFrom The Cosmos10/29/2018, 3:40:43 AM8 votes

[{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=mdXRUffl,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-10-29T00:07:48.817+0000)

This is somewhat stolen and rephrased from a post I saw on Imgur previously, but it's very relevant to League.

  • When someone says or does something unintentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is rude.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally hurtful and they do it once, that is mean.
  • When someone says or does something intentionally or unintentionally hurtful and they keep doing it after realizing that it is hurtful, that is harassment.

You can be rude in League if it happens only rarely. Hell, you can even be a bit mean sometimes -- everyone gets frustrated, and the system has a bit of leeway built in as long as you're not egregious about it and don't do it often.

When you keep doing something you know is offensive, hurtful, or unwanted, however, you have crossed the line into harassment. This is true whether you're insulting someone's mother, or simply continually pointing out their low CS score when you know it's meant to bother them or embarrass them.

100% This.

Been playing since early 2010 and I've said my fair share of mean things to people I felt were total asshats. Hell I've even dropped a few F bombs at people during the years. This is why when people claim Riot punishes unfairly for a single report, or single instance of this behavior, you can take solace in that they are factually incorrect in their recollection of the events. (Instant feedback for racial slurs, tell people to kill themselves etc is an obvious exception) - This is usually why you'll see people post incomplete chat logs and then they get picked apart by the community.

As long as you're generally cordial with others in-game and don't harass people, you shouldn't run into any chat restrictions or bans.

Midg3t10/29/2018, 12:43:26 AM6 votes

Whatever people find it 'hurtful' is pretty subjective imo. You said

When you keep doing something you know is offensive, hurtful, or unwanted, however, you have crossed the line into harassment. This is true whether you're insulting someone's mother, or simply continually pointing out their low CS score when you know it's meant to bother them or embarrass them.

What if I for example, find it hurtful if some1 constantly says 'gj/good job'? By your logic some1 saying it to me is considered harrassment.

mlm olo mlm10/29/2018, 12:37:25 AM3 votes

You hurt my brain every time you post. You have been warned. (Half joke half serious. Curious how you react.)

Negatif10/29/2018, 7:04:53 AM3 votes

Be serious, this game caters to the participation trophy babies. If that dude on your team is basically inting and dies 7 times in the first 10 minutes.. if you get frustrated that this guy is costing you LP, and you say anything besides "Great Job! Keep up the hard work summoner!" you will get a chat ban and he will get off without any punishment because "he's trying."

When did the competitive scene start to cater to offended libs? I guess cause its a highly liberal company.

AugustHeatHaze10/29/2018, 3:05:12 PM2 votes

this is a great guide on how to conduct yourself in the real world too!!!

No Chad you aren't getting a restraining order put on you by your ex because reverse sexism, its because you cant grasp the concept of harassment and how not to do it.

HeartsofConquest10/29/2018, 4:57:37 PM2 votes

Is spam pinging after someone dies considered harassment, and if so does that come up in reports. Also if I kill my enemy laner and say "?" in chat because I see that happen a lot.

EvansR10/30/2018, 1:07:18 AM1 votes

While I agree with this post, it should also be taken into account who started the harassment. I have never, NEVER begun the harassing. I really only communicate with my team through pings, because it is normally the best way to communicate with your team. But if I start getting harassed by another player, and I defend myself from their harassment, how do I get chat restricted for that?

I understand that I should just mute them, but whether I mute them or call them out for being toxic and defend myself, as well as call them a few choice words that they utterly deserved, THEY should be the one that gets punished. Side note: there should be an option to mute all other players except for pings, and spam pinging someone should also be reportable (although not sure how it can be tracked and proven what they were doing).

Pibbers11/1/2018, 4:10:46 PM1 votes

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