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I will be spending the next few weeks making detailed posts about Riot's corruption/deception

ChallengerSoraka·7/17/2018, 10:45:12 AM·6 votes·1,788 views

There is a lot of corruption/deception/lies involved in punishment for BM which makes up 99% of bans. The main motivation for this is bringing more revenue from banned players buying accounts and buying RP for xp boosts and re-buying champs/skins from banned accounts.

The solution to BM is muting the toxic player and it's AVAILABLE, it has been for ages, yet players keep re-buying skins/champs on new accounts, there is no solution to fixing BM, it's part of life, anywho stay tuned for this is very interesting.

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Umbral Regent7/17/2018, 10:59:15 AM15 votes

The main motivation for this is bringing more revenue from banned players buying accounts...

Not even two full sentences in and you're already spreading your own deception.

Riot doesn't make any money off of bought accounts. The people who sell accounts do, which means less revenue for Riot. Unless part of your "detailed posts explaining Riot's corruption" involve some tinfoil hat theory about Riot actually running the account-selling sites, in which case...

No. Just no.

...and buying RP for xp boosts and re-buying champs/skins from banned accounts.

When Riot issues a permanent ban, they do so to make the player leave their game. They can't really stop them from coming back, but they hope that they'll leave on the merit of having lost all of their progress.

If, for some reason, they decide to come back and spend more money (which is wholly illogical, nobody in their right mind would do so unless they were going to actually obey the rules the second time around), then that money is spent at their own discretion. Riot doesn't encourage them to spend money, and there's no downside to not spending money.

The solution to BM is muting the toxic player and it's AVAILABLE, it has been for ages...

I know, right? Why do people keep flaming instead of muting and reporting players who upset or annoy them? It'd be so much easier for people to avoid bans if they just muted instead of getting into a flame war.

Unless you mean that the players doing the BM are the ones getting punished, and that Riot should rather employ permanent chat mutes instead of suspensions...You do realize that wouldn't work, right?

...there is no solution to fixing BM, it's part of life...

No, BM is not a part of life. That's like saying "murder is just a part of life", so we should just let people run around murdering each other. BM is a side effect of having civility, morality, and the expectation of respect. You still haven't been remotely clear on what you mean by BM or how it gets punished, so, I'm going to assume you mean "flaming" and not "BM'ing".

Either way, you've done a poor job of "exposing corruption in Riot" and a stellar job at making poorly-founded and ill-explained arguments that don't even work if we assume that they're right.

AeroWaffle7/17/2018, 11:00:09 AM8 votes

How is Riot getting revenue from buying accounts?

It's free to sign up.

As for the other parts such as champions, skins, and boosts. I want you to think about what you're claiming for a moment. You're making the claim that someone who just lost all their progress and content is going to be more willing to purchase things from Riot compared to when they felt like they would be keeping their account.

ModThe Djinn7/17/2018, 12:33:31 PM7 votes

There is a lot of corruption/deception/lies involved in punishment for BM which makes up 99% of bans.

As someone who has been on these boards for several years looking at the chat logs of punished players, 95% are clearly based in violations of the rules, about 5% are edge cases where minor behavior pushed someone up against the edge, and a fraction of 1% are mistakes. There have been no signs of corruption, deception, or lies.

The main motivation for this is bringing more revenue from banned players buying accounts and buying RP for xp boosts and re-buying champs/skins from banned accounts.

This is untrue. A significant portion of banned players never play League again, and the banned player pool is a lot smaller than people think -- in no way large enough to be a financial drive of any sort for a company as large as Riot. A fraction of a fraction of a fraction of their income, at best -- and almost certainly entirely insignificant.

The solution to BM is muting the toxic player and it's AVAILABLE, it has been for ages...

Riot tried this in the past. It led to a marked increase in non-verbal forms of toxicity, which still ruins the game for players -- and does so in ways that are harder to detect. Why implement a system that not only is shown to increase toxic gameplay but also denies innocent players a communicative teammate?

Chermorg7/17/2018, 2:05:14 PM6 votes

punishment for BM which makes up 99% of bans

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The main motivation for this is bringing more revenue from banned players buying accounts and buying RP for xp boosts and re-buying champs/skins from banned accounts.

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The solution to BM is muting the toxic player and it's AVAILABLE

Don't blame the victim. The responsibility is on the players breaking the rules to not break the rules.

Yatol7/17/2018, 11:29:25 AM6 votes

the solution to BM is not doing it

i really dont see how hard is it to understand. Dont wanna get banned for BM? don't flame. yes there's a muting option but that dosent excuse your behavior. This is a video game not a muting simulator You can make some conspiracy theories all you want but it looks like is that you're just making salty attempts at tarnishing Riot's reputation just because you got punished.

dont wanna give Riot money? dont give Riot money.

BoringLittleF7/17/2018, 11:10:47 AM5 votes

Nobody makes you buy anything. The new crafting system allows you to get champs even without hitting 6300 and get orange essence to craft skins. You are able not to pay a single cent and still have champs and skins, plus you get tons of free content from the events.

Voldymort7/17/2018, 11:02:38 AM4 votes

when riot bans an account, it's their way of saying "we don't want you playing our game anymore! gtfo!"

they can't prevent you from making a new account or using your wallet on it because you just had to have that skin and couldn't be bothered to wait for it to popup in the hextech chests.

i like how this "they're doing it for the money" rethoric ignores the fact that the majority of people who play the game abide by the rules and don't get banned. you'd think that their "let's make money" scheme would work better if more than 0.0006% of the population had that happen to them...

and before you go with "0.0006% is too small so it's a fake number", let's do a bit of math:

i don't know what the current game population is but a web article from last year claimed that there were >100 million active players in china alone. so let's take that number and use it here, ok?

0.0006% of 100mil means that 60.000 players. sounds like alot, doesn't it?

Ignopius7/17/2018, 11:38:20 AM3 votes

It's unbelievable how many white knights for Riot there on here. Remember this is the same company that said "fuck you" to every single adc player a few weeks ago. This company is going down the tubes and has absolutely no morals.

ChallengerSoraka7/17/2018, 10:46:30 AM2 votes

this post might get deleted because it'l be considered 'off topic' but i will dedicate a lot of time to making very educated and mathematically supported arguments against Riot's deceptive and greedy practices, we players have suffered for so long with suspensions for trivial things like BM in chat, that does not deserve a perma ban + rewards restrictions (new patch).

Aneirin7/17/2018, 7:32:22 PM2 votes

You literally said in a different post that they're losing themselves money with this policy. Maybe decide on one story before you start spamming the boards with it...

Scuffleboard7/17/2018, 2:38:49 PM2 votes

You will then be wasting your time.

Riot isn't running some sort of shadow government deep state conspiracy. They're removing toxic players to make the community better, not to make more money. And while Riot, like all companies, has its flaws, banning players just to moneygrab is not one of them.

BM, flashing mastery or something, is one thing. Being a dick is another, and it absolutely warrants punishment even if there is a mute button. Bulletproof vests don't make shooting people okay.

jimboman7/17/2018, 9:11:46 PM1 votes

There is a lot of corruption/deception/lies involved in punishment for BM which makes up 99% of bans.<

I WOULD believe this but I would've been banned several times already before I reformed. Dude. Just start a new account and reform from your behavior.

(Or just don't play the game if it makes you that mad)

Shukr4n7/17/2018, 11:47:04 AM1 votes

Who should be the target of such work?

Noone.cares

CharDeeMcDenniz7/17/2018, 11:53:19 AM1 votes

"...as the grain of sand yelled at the beach..."

GrayBlood7/17/2018, 2:57:40 PM1 votes

no one cares about some shitty soraka main talking about sorakas corruption

Míellá7/17/2018, 3:24:39 PM1 votes

Why is it that everytime someone writes this kind of stuff, that person is always bronze/silver? And I'm pretty sure that you got punished recently.

If you try to do what you want to do, do it right. Not with your opinion or why you think they do it.

Provide proof and not some shit. Also, bm isn't a part of life Wanna know how to stop bming? Just don't bm. Its that easy.

Xidphel7/17/2018, 6:35:37 PM1 votes

And I'll be watching your posts get ripped to shreds.