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Players guilty of the same reports they file against other players

Ten Summer Suns·4/7/2019, 5:38:55 AM·1 votes·2,772 views

"It doesn't matter what other people say, you should never talk a certain way."

Sorry, but whoever came up with this drivel is a tyrant. And whomever parrots the idea is a sheep. Sorry, not sorry. The real problem with the community is the few members who think so highly of themselves that they think they should be allowed to govern the behavior and environment for other players and the entire staff of Riot that ignores the reality of the issues, and keeps dismissing the problems while catering to those few members mentioned before.

I'm talking about this born-after-95, PC, passive-aggressive, standing-in-the-way-doing-nothing-wrong, socialist mindset that is plaguing the game.

People report people for one reason only: The insatiability of ego. People feel the need to have some futile sense of power when their own freedoms are being restricted. The person reporting people is the same person tilting teammates, making threats, speaking in slurs, and harassing everyone on your team while having the merriest tea-time chats with the enemies. That type of "build a character" type of bullshit that will get the enemy team joining in on the flame-fest. Post-game you're happy to get out of there, but the whole enemy team reports you for the comment "he's obviously trolling" and the troll reports you for "f off". 2 practically harmless comments that the community will follow up with (and watch the irony unfold)

  • show chat records (even when you're discussing the hypothetical scenario we all know is true)
  • just mute and move on, dont respond

That's bullshit, because if you don't report these people who were saying worse shit to get you to say that harmless shit then they go unpunished. The solution is simple: Players that decide to report other players should be immediately reported themselves for ALL categories. Players found guilty of ANY offense after making a report will have their report DISCARDED.

Why not punish these players? Because that's the incentive. Remove the power to abuse the system. And in order to remove that abuse, you must remove the incentive. Punishing a player that abuses the report system, and punishing the reported player too clearly diminshes the mutual standard set by the community. The game is real. The boards are 95% of the 5% of the players which I'm talking about. The other 5% of boards members are the 95% of players that just want to play and don't take the time to give feedback.

TLDR

IF A PLAYER REPORTS ANOTHER PLAYER, BUT BROKE RULES THEMSELVES, THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO PUNISHMENT DEALT. THE REPORTING PLAYER WILL AUTOMATICALLY REPORT THEMSELVES, IF THE SELF-REPORT IS FOUND GUILTY THEN THE REPORT IS THROWN AWAY.

37 Comments

Imperial Pandaa4/7/2019, 5:44:17 AM14 votes

No. We aren't playing "Who was worse" or "They started it". Ir takes 1 report to flag a game, more don't matter. Jim can report Bob and Bob can report Jim. Why add extra steps that do nothing?

Hotarµ4/7/2019, 6:12:40 AM11 votes

The real problem with the community is the few members who think so highly of themselves that they think they should be allowed to govern the behavior and environment for other players and the entire staff of Riot that ignores the reality of the issues, and keeps dismissing the problems while catering to those few members mentioned before.

The "real problem" with the community is that people think it's acceptable to treat others like garbage just because they're on the internet. I've never seen anyone offer valid reasoning as to why flaming should be allowed (hint: it shouldn't) other than a variation of one of the following:

  • "If someone else is doing it, I should be allowed to do it."

No, fact is that stooping to someone else's level doesn't do anything to improve your current situation.

  • "They need to know what they did wrong."

Non-constructive criticism doesn't make someone more likely to listen to you, it makes them more likely to flame you (further increasing your chances to lose) or ignore you altogether.

  • "They need to stop being sensitive."

Do you not get offended or annoyed by certain words? Great!

Don't be a dick, words carry weight to some people. Not everyone is the same. How about you treat people with common decency and respect and make an effort to (reasonably) accommodate them instead of just disregarding or harassing them?

_ Now, this is the part where you call me a sheep, snowflake, SJW, etc. This website would be super helpful in streamlining that process._

The person reporting people is the same person tilting teammates, making threats, speaking in slurs, and harassing everyone on your team while having the merriest tea-time chats with the enemies.

And that person is subject to the same rules as the person they're reporting.

Is it hypocritical for someone to report others when they're also breaking the rules? Yes, but that hypocrisy doesn't prohibit them from being penalized.

Eedat4/7/2019, 7:38:51 AM5 votes

Think you should go to bed and come back when you're a bit calmer. You seem rather pissed off and it's making you pretty irrational

ModUlanopo4/7/2019, 4:51:19 PM4 votes

People report people for one reason only: The insatiability of ego.

That's not really helpful as a starting point. I mean, that's an opinion you can have, but it's clearly not shared.

JungleChopper4/7/2019, 7:05:47 AM3 votes

I honestly think people who report each other are just butt hurt unless the person they reported actually tried to hinder game play

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Voldymort4/7/2019, 2:12:54 PM3 votes

IF A PLAYER REPORTS ANOTHER PLAYER, BUT BROKE RULES THEMSELVES, THEN THERE SHOULD BE NO PUNISHMENT DEALT. THE REPORTING PLAYER WILL AUTOMATICALLY REPORT THEMSELVES, IF THE SELF-REPORT IS FOUND GUILTY THEN THE REPORT IS THROWN AWAY.

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i can't even...

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Makarakarn4/7/2019, 5:17:25 PM2 votes

I don't normally bring politics into this but because you brought it up..this is the most "born-after-95, PC, passive-aggressive, standing-in-the-way-doing-nothing-wrong, socialist mindset" post I've ever seen.

R107 Games4/7/2019, 5:56:43 AM2 votes

Sounds like a good idea that will reduce the amount of "spite" reports or the like. This can't really backfire since if you didn't do anything wrong, then you won't be punished

Ten Summer Suns4/7/2019, 7:05:18 AM2 votes

This is why I've been putting my money into MTG again instead of buying skins.

CharDeeMcDenniz4/7/2019, 6:15:15 AM1 votes

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hrooza dota 4/7/2019, 11:31:13 AM1 votes

why dont you report the offender? like if you say minor stuff you wont be banned and if he is saying slur then a single report is enough to punish them

reports DONT stack in a single game meaning the whole enemy team is useless in getting you banned if you dont break the roles, it also means your report is enough to get someone breaking the rule punished.