Streamers are a big reason of why community is toxic

Winter Soraka·6/30/2019, 2:00:45 AM·64 votes·19,962 views

I was watching Tarzaned's stream today. He is undeniably skilled, but today, 3-4 games in a row he spent the entire game furiously insulting the teammates with words in a complete unreasonable way, raging with every single mistake (most of them not even being objective), and going AFK or trolling in his challenger account with the ridiculous "L9" meme.

He has 4,000 people watching, some or many of them are aware of the immaturity, but a big portion of these are kid-teenagers that will mimic the behavior.

I know it's difficult to control this because they might not type as much in game, but I wanted to put the idea there because it's getting out of hand and I'm pretty sure it's affecting the community significantly, when the most influential streamers are these immature and toxic. They are arguably the biggest and most constant reference for players. What can you do?

54 Comments

Jennifer4206/30/2019, 4:34:44 AM19 votes

riots argument for that (like 2 years ago) was that they cant keep an eye on every streamer.

which is totally fine. but they use it as an excuse. if the biggest of streamers literally have a youtube channel build around videos of trolling and inting and you ignore that, youre just lazy fucks riot.

R107 Games6/30/2019, 2:24:53 AM15 votes

Streamers are only a small reason; the viewers those toxic streamers have are only a fraction of the playerbase.

But yeah, remember when players started running it down mid because of Tyler1's ID ban? And now people are playing Teemo support because of NB3 or Nubrac's bans

XJ999999999999996/30/2019, 6:44:10 AM12 votes

the people who dont agree with you are clueless.

humans naturally mimic others they hang around/watch. never said "bruh" before but now your friend/streamer says it? You'll find yourself saying "bruh" without even thinking of the words. it is natural.

why does this happen? Because we used to come from groups and be a family, so us knowing each other, speaking the same way, happened naturally.

now we have people who copy the way people speak that live 1000's of miles away and don't think anything of it.

your average gamer will not accept this and act like people are individuals when in reality people bandwagon whatever is popular (how to think/act/play, you name it).

every small bit of toxicity that happens and isn't dealt with properly adds onto the problem. there should easily be a few dozen ID banned players for how toxic they are but riot doesn't care unless it's for public PR.

Bugog6/30/2019, 9:31:36 AM7 votes

League has been toxic before streaming was a big thing, and I personally know people who don't watch streamers but are terribly toxic.

GatekeeperTDS6/30/2019, 2:09:30 AM6 votes

They are the biggest and most constant reference for players.

No they are not. Everyone's individual ego is what will make them choose to be douchenozzles in game or not. People who are not douchenozzles won't watch Tarzaned and then magically decide to be toxic fuckwits in game.

Everyone is responsible for their own behavior.

SammyDayspring6/30/2019, 5:35:05 PM4 votes

it's the parents' responsibility more than anyone else. They have the biggest influence in their kids lives. But they don't care enough to pay attention to what their kids are seeing online. Toxic streamers are popular because younger kids think it's cool to say nasty stuff to complete strangers. They don't have the emotional maturity to realize that it's the streamers that are weak minded because they let a game and other players get under their skin so much.

Turtles Are Okay6/30/2019, 11:19:19 AM4 votes

Agreed completely.

Years ago when I was warning about this, everyone laughed, yet, it came to be. Humans copy each other as a way of life. What do you think people are going to do when they see their "community stars" use the term "int" for a teammate breathing?

Of course they're going to say everything is "int". Int this, int that, troll this, troll that, open, ff 15, 15, spam ping someone.

I do it myself too out of habit of seeing it and I try to control it. Imagine someone that isn't aware of how he's influenced.

rKRex6/30/2019, 6:43:09 AM3 votes

100% agree, and riot does nothing. They'd rather perma ban normal people so they can steal their account and make them rebuy everything they've earned. trash company.

General Esdeath 6/30/2019, 9:15:41 PM3 votes

Man if only Riot had some way of monitoring them and keeping eyes on them, like some live stream that shows their account name(s) and what they're doing!

Oh wait...

Sillae6/30/2019, 9:20:40 PM3 votes

There's also the confirmation bias. People who are dicks are more likely to watch people like Tyler1, Shaclone, etc. because they want to watch what they think is "funny" or "cool."

Ammunitionary6/30/2019, 4:55:22 PM3 votes

I agree wholeheartedly.

Especially for people that are new to the game, when they watch a streamer and see how the game is played at the highest level, it can often lead to them thinking behavior like this is permissible.

Chromatic Eagle6/30/2019, 3:09:20 PM2 votes

I don't think there's that many kid-teens who watch Tarzaned. It's not like there aren't any college-aged men who pull stupid shit like inting.

Metal Janna6/30/2019, 5:25:26 PM2 votes

How, exactly, is he regularly going AFK or trolling and not getting banned on all his accounts by manual review?

God God7/1/2019, 10:19:32 AM2 votes

No the community is this way because more and more people are playing the game who have no idea how to play that skill level. Back in Season 2 people dropped real hard and it was a lot easier to carry if you got fed, now you can't if the game goes past 30 mins. Think they should just remove bounties from the game and catch up mechanics.

Most teams now are, "End in 25 mins or we just win because we got out items and got lucky kills on your team for bounties. Rank shouldn't have any catch up mechanics and punish players for making bad plays or decisions.

Also this catering to people who can't grow a thick skin and report people because their feelings got hurt is sad. Only in League do they reward the feeders/bad players.

Crystalysk6/30/2019, 3:15:28 PM2 votes

Well, people will always try to emulate other people who are "famous". World has always been like that and it won't change.

Jennifer4209/13/2019, 2:15:06 PM1 votes

funny how this 3 month old thread showed up for me when i filter by "recent/hot"

I memba balance 6/30/2019, 8:49:33 PM1 votes

T R A D E Z A N E D should literally be permabanned with the Tyler1 treatment. He has been given numerous chances to reform. Way more than he should have been. And he's still a piece of shit manchild that Boosts, Wintrades, Ints, is massively toxic, and just an overall tumor to NA soloqueue.

SociopathFriend7/1/2019, 4:34:17 AM1 votes

The game has been full of toxic players literally since I started back in... I'm going to say 2013 or perhaps a year or two later. I even had toxic friends: Some would feed on purpose because they hated their team Some would deliberately refuse to surrender to keep their team in a game to make them suffer Some would AFK in the base but keep nudging their keyboard so they weren't hit with the hammer And one of them was so bad at the game I've always thought he HAD to be trying to be such

None of them followed streamers or Youtubers. They just were college guys that had enough spite in them to want to hurt their team more than they wanted to win if their team pissed them off.

holystack7/1/2019, 5:01:09 AM1 votes

Sociology would naturally agree with your statement that streamers actively influence the playerbase in regard to how they should behave. Have a like.

Makarakarn7/1/2019, 10:44:57 AM1 votes

While this is true to an extent, it's not entirely their fault. Their are just shitty people in the world, and they're easier to find over the internet.

Ifneth7/1/2019, 2:04:52 PM1 votes

League has had toxic players from the beginning. Some streamers have just become better at serving the worst part of the playerbase, who tilt and flame regularly. Ultimately, if Riot really wanted flaming gone, then it would have replaced chat with a rich ping system.

Squid Squared7/11/2019, 8:13:08 PM1 votes

Honestly, Riot needs to turn off chat. There should be no reason why we actually need to type back and forth instead of communicating through pings. The only time chat is used (on average) is for people being toxic and flaming others.

TURN THE CHAT OFF RIOT

Thats the only way you are going to fix the toxicity problem in league.

Been playing for years now, and its only gotten worse recently. I want to enjoy playing, but lately every time I do I wonder why I'm subjecting myself to constant aggravation with the current state of toxic communication in the community.

Jewish Lender7/12/2019, 12:46:06 AM1 votes

riot should ban everyone who follows these streamers. and ban everyone who says anything mean in chat.