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To @Riot Socrates (Not Hate Mail) [Tyler1 Post. Truth!]

Elisai·4/30/2016, 4:55:02 AM·125 votes·9,273 views

First off, I am supportive of your braveness to post that about Tyler1.

Second, I'd like to shed some light on all of the upvotes and downvotes that went on in that post. Just in case any of you know yet we're all supportive of good behavior in League of Legends. In which case Tyler1 wasn't a good influence at all. Even if other people trolled a little in game it wasn't the problem. It was the way Tyler1 took that issue and made it worse and fucked over the entire game because he didn't get blue or the support he wanted. I do not support trolling or anything it's just that he took it off the deep end. So he got permanently banned. Which is a fair punishment for all that he caused so far, including influencing other players to be toxic as well. None of this is okay at all. If you do so you will get suspended or even banned and it is a real issue Riot has to deal with for the sake of all the players who genuinely enjoy the game at it's best, no trolls no nothing.

Thirdly, and finally, the downvotes and stuff like that on the original post were from when Tyler1 and his entire stream and Reddit fanbase went there to downvote all the Riot comments and post or anything that was negative to Tyler1 was downvoted to oblivion and positive comments from Tyler1 fans upvoted those to the roof and say Riot Socrates sucks, ect. All because he went to the page on stream everyone of his fans knows about it and basically controls that post now with what people think of Riot when they're making the right decision.

The end. To be honest though, downvote or upvote me. I don't care. Just like me, no amount of downvotes is going to stop Riot Socrates from making the right decision by posting what he has to.

                   ~ Love, Faal Rovaniik

Edit: If you really wanna see what the League Community socially accepts in a post, a post that wasn't controlled by Tyler1's fanbase, just look down in the comments.

86 Comments

My Sea Cow4/30/2016, 5:12:54 AM47 votes

I think the biggest issue with him was how many accounts has he got permabanned and he STILL didn't change anything! I"m for the ban...he had his chance.

Aliyn4/30/2016, 7:16:09 AM16 votes

I agree with this. And thanks for the fun fact about the reddit votes and the stream votes. I was honestly really fucking pissed seeing it was downvoted so much. Made me lose some fucking faith.

TonyTonyMordecai4/30/2016, 6:49:31 AM10 votes

This makes sense why the announcement had 1.3K downvotes.

I left Socrates a note of good will on the original post. The man did the right thing, he shut down a community of toxicity. It had to be done.

AeroWaffle4/30/2016, 4:59:24 AM9 votes

The end. To be honest though, if Riot wanted to they could change their policy to allow them to I.P. ban again.

IP bans both incur collateral damage and are unlikely to work.

In many cases a person's external IP is dynamic, making a specific IP ban worthless.

It's also possible, by banning a single IP, you ban an entire college dorm, (or library, cafe, etc) that shares it, possibly punishing plenty of innocent players.

FrostyDog4/30/2016, 1:14:04 PM8 votes

I am happy that he got banned, honestly I played with some of his fans and they were some of the most negative players ever. Some of them were suiciding in the mid lane, and when I would make even the slightest mistake they started to flame. Like one time I took the red and didn't give it to the ADC because I was a fed Kindred and they flamed me for it. So happy that he is gone.

rtbf2256182414/30/2016, 12:48:03 PM8 votes

This is Riot's game after all. If someone tries to ruin it, they get thrown out of it.

Seems like a fair deal to me.

SeekerofSilence4/30/2016, 3:31:26 PM6 votes

I realized this the moment I saw all the people saying they logged in purely to downvote/hate. Seriously, so many new people visiting the boards isn't a coincidence.

GuiltyGecko4/30/2016, 6:24:31 PM5 votes

I would also like to point out 2 things to the people that say "But x, y, and z do bad stuff too and they aren't banned!"

Point 1: Just because others are slipping through the cracks, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to ban those we catch. It's like when you get pulled over by a cop for speeding, and say "But cop, I wasn't the only one speeding!" That doesn't make it anymore okay. You got caught speeding. The others will get their turn, but right now it's yours. Others troll, afk, flame, whatever, and yes it's bad, but that doesn't mean we just do an ALL or NOTHING approach. Either we ban EVERYONE at the same time, or NO ONE gets banned makes no sense.

Point 2: Some of the examples that people give of toxic players aren't actually toxic ingame. Sure, you're watching their stream and they may call their teams retarded, armless, cancer babies, ON STREAM but they never say that ingame. They never type out their frustration. There team never knows that one of their players is flaming them in real life. As long as you don't vent your frustration ingame, who cares what you're doing behind the keyboard or on stream. Toxicity that's purely on stream is a twitch/streaming platform problem. Not a Riot problem.

ModWulf Helhammer4/30/2016, 4:57:07 AM5 votes

It's not a policy that Riot doesn't IP ban, it's that it doesn't do anything. A person can pretty easily change their IP address (not to mention it can harm people in dorms or PC cafes)

8Tf3R17cc14/30/2016, 5:02:16 AM5 votes

for me, its just the reasons they gave where pretty shit. you see kacy/nicktron both flamers. half of the tits up in the scream and sit and just talk shit inb game and out are just as bad. but lately tyler been pretty average player toxicness. IMO yeah he shouldov learned his lesson but past 2 bans where just to ban him, not for actual hard core toxic reasons. also if you do watch his stream and not just base off your others opinions. people hard core troll him when he climbs from beginning or purposely feed or even just afk or purposely camp his lane with 3+. idk. i understand the perma ban but at the same time its kinda dumb for riot stating why when they obviously see other streamers are a lot worse. eh im not a fan of him but i liked the fact he tried every game no matter what until it was just done./ oh wells

Elikain4/30/2016, 3:09:45 PM5 votes

The reason why i don't ever think anything on these boards is valuable until i actually read the post and have my opinion formed is because it's driven by sheep mentality. People will just go along with it because they didn't have to do the work and upvoting or downvoting is just one click away.

Some arguments in Riot's thread about Tyler1 were about Meteos being toxic and that's a lie. In reality, he provoked Meteos and then just screencapped his response on twitter, saying how Meteos is forgiven for talking shit but his behavior is called toxic.

There are YouTubers who intentionally provoke people in FPS games and then they record them saying shit, gathering subscribers and earning money for this. If if has really come to this, then it's about time Riot says enough - in a game i want to support for years to come.

Volgaria4/30/2016, 9:32:17 AM4 votes

Was looking for clarification on this, I had never heard of this dude until now, and was pretty disappointed to see so many downvotes on a post by riot about something like that. I don't understand how people can justify defending him. Take Dunkey for example, I love dunkeys videos. I watch them all the time, but he deserved to get banned. I wouldn't try to justify someones actions just because I like them or think they are funny.

TheBestWorstPlyr4/30/2016, 4:56:35 AM4 votes

<3

terrhy4/30/2016, 11:06:22 AM4 votes

Not all the downvotes were from tyler1's fans, I downvoted the post because I really don't like the uneven way it was applied. Sure, tyler1 is toxic, flames, feeds, and gets accounts banned but if you go on youtube you can see TONS of people doing that, many of which I'm sure have gotten permanent bans before. What I really hate about the situation is that the only reason tyler1 got banned is because he's so visible. Riot isn't actually solving the problem of high toxicity, they're sweeping it under the rug.

Owntrolf4/30/2016, 5:01:49 AM1 votes

I wonder if MAC bans exist