Cheaters?

FeelTheBern2017·Mar 8, 2016·1 votes·797 views

Currently in a match right now where a blitzcrank player has pulled me while stunned, and pulled me a tremendous range through my minion wave under the enemy turret. Every few games in unranked or in low level queues it seems like I run into at least one player who has very fishy things happening around them all game, such as it telling people they need mana to flash etc etc. Cheating is a report option in post game, yet everybody claims there are no possible cheats, hacks, scripts, or anything of the like for league. I know this to be false. Now, Riot. Are you going to actually look into the matches where people get reported for cheating, or are we going to keep blaming it on the 50 ping vs 2 ping thing? It's getting old when some 12 year old who thinks he is being funny ruins the game for everyone else, and this "high end developer" refuses to do anything about it.

13 Comments

DrCyanideMar 8, 20162 votes

Riot handles scripters in ban waves, with the idea being if they banned them instantly script writers could quickly find out how to circumvent the methods Riot uses to detect them.

That said, scripting is client side. While the occasional exploit will come up, there's nothing in aware of that would make a Blitz pull through through minions other than lag.

FeelTheBern2017Mar 8, 20161 votes

so you are presenting the 2 ping vs 50 ping argument. i see.

DrCyanideMar 8, 20162 votes

I'm presenting the 50 ping steady vs 50 ping with 150 ping spike. We've all seen minions move super speed to get to where they're suppose to be, or minions flash away if that's how you've got your settings. I've missed many a skillshot on a minion wave because of it. It stands to reason that's likely what happened.

XerShadeMar 8, 20162 votes

You can do it if you aim very carefully, it is a very small needle to thread though.

PowderkeggMar 8, 20161 votes

I'm not sure what your point is. Blitz can use his q while stunned, scripts do exist in the game, and telling someone they need mana to flash isn't fishy or cheating.

https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4905jv/kyahaha%EC%BA%AC%ED%95%98%ED%95%98_helperscript_controversy/

FeelTheBern2017Mar 8, 20161 votes

Have you ever actually played a MOBA of any sort?

XerShadeMar 8, 20161 votes

Um, obviously if he's a member of the game.

PharohMar 8, 20161 votes

As far as I know scripting is the only form of cheating that exists in league, there are no "hacks" that allow champions to exceed their given range or ability. If you take Blitz's hook as an example it would not be difficult for Riot's systems to detect a blitz hook that landed at a range of say 1200 rather than 975, if what you're saying is true. The reason scripts are harder to detect is because they don't alter how a champion works they just manage to use them to near their full potential without any room for human error and with the use of unnatural reaction times.

FeelTheBern2017Mar 8, 20161 votes

You are the only person who came to this post presenting a somewhat rational and well worded sentence. However, it is no feat of modern technology to be able to alter the code of an online game. Riot will tell you it's impossible, just like every other game developer will, but that as we all should know, being denizens of the internet, is a very big tale.

PharohMar 8, 20161 votes

I'm not saying that it's impossible, it is most certainly possible I'm just saying that it is easily detectable. Riot is able to see a log of everything that happens in game I'm sure, and stuff like what you're describing stands out like a red thumb. Scripts work differently, not affecting the client at all but instead controlling your mouse movement and keyboard and analyzing things like attack animations and spell casts and using that to react in time. I wasn't trying to say that it was impossible to alter the games code I'm just saying that it's something that would not be able to get past Riot or most online game companies for that matter, I'm well aware that hacks exist but it is very rare these days for one to go undealt with in popular online games.

ZyorhistMar 8, 20161 votes

Its more about the fact that there is a system that runs a set number of commands and then a system that checks to see if those commands executed properly when another system to double check that the variables were wrong. Then there is another system that will correct improper commands, then finally when its all done if there was an error its programmed to tell riot right away. So if someone changed the script for, in this case, blitz' hook riot would get notified stating that this match had some code problems, they would look into it and see if it has ever happened with any of the players in the match. If it happens again there would be an investigation.

PharohMar 8, 20161 votes

Yea sorry, I'm not totally familiar on how the code works but I knew I had the right concept

AkeneroMar 8, 20161 votes

There are countermeasures in place which ban you for trying to alter the game code. However, scripting is common in lower elos due to the players not noticing impossible reactions and precision. Basically, if somebody can CONSISTENTLY pull off perfect reads on pulls or dodges every skillshot, it's most likely a script. And yes, ive seen a blitzcrank script before. He missed 2 grabs due to flashes.

Marksmen sometimes use bots, which get perfect farm and trade every time you try to cs.

It's scummy, but not perfect