got 2 questions, any answers are welcum

Jennifer420·3/2/2019, 5:48:46 PM·1 votes·1,441 views

first things first... nope no typo in the title. all planed.

ok seriously now i have 2 questions, one i was asking myself for a while now while the 2nd came up thanks to a thread i read.

the one that just came up is, why are 0 tolerance words still able to be posted? i played enough games that turned something like "fuck you" automatically into "have a nice day". so why isnt stuff like kµs just removed?

what is the difference between the "insults" and the "hatespeech" report option? if someone uses hatespeech OR insults shouldnt both report options do the same?

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Umbral Regent3/2/2019, 6:14:24 PM2 votes

Well, the first question you already answered. Notice how you used a character that wasn't "y"? There are a blue billion ways players can change the word they type that it would be completely infeasible to try and handle all variations of it and replace it with another word or phrase.

There's of course going to be the follow-up question "so then why not just do it for the base version of the word?". To which I have to say; "If you give a mouse a cookie..." - if you do it for one instance of the behavior, you will inevitably be held to do the same for every other conceivable instance.

what is the difference between the "insults" and the "hatespeech" report option? if someone uses hatespeech OR insults shouldnt both report options do the same?

The difference between insults and hate speech is that hate speech is an attack on an unchangeable factor of character. A mental illness, ethnicity, gender, sexuality, etc., and these types of attacks are something Riot doesn't want in their game, period. Of course, they don't want any sort of insults and misbehavior in their game, but they hold a special scrutiny for hate speech.

Consequently, no; the two report options are not the same and should not do the same thing. Verbal abuse and insults fall under the Harassment/Verbal Abuse report option, and put players on the basic, mainline punishment track. Hate Speech covers egregious offenses such as encouraging self-harm and the aforementioned hate speech, which Riot treats with zero tolerance, and results in verified offenses leading to higher levels of immediate penalty (14-day ban for a first offense).

Madjack013/2/2019, 6:15:07 PM2 votes

Hate speech is specifically targeted at specific groups.

Hate speech is usually meant to be insulting while an insult often is not hate speech.

As to why zero tolerance words are still allowed to be posted. I dunno. I find the systems that convert those words into something nice more gimmicky than anything else. You may not see the word but the intention of insulting still goes through.

Not to forget that people spam those systems for fun.

Modi3/2/2019, 6:09:19 PM1 votes

hatespeech (partial list): using slurs, making negative comments about someone's race, nationality, sexuality, etc.

Hotarµ3/2/2019, 6:20:08 PM1 votes

the one that just came up is, why are 0 tolerance words still able to be posted? i played enough games that turned something like "fuck you" automatically into "have a nice day". so why isnt stuff like kµs just removed?

It's just Riot's decision, I don't really know why to be honest. I think one reason would be that people would just find a way to be toxic without using keywords. So for example instead of saying "fucking trash" someone could just say "you're honestly garbage" or "just uninstall, trash" and Riot would have no way to crack down on it.

what is the difference between the "insults" and the "hatespeech" report option? if someone uses hatespeech OR insults shouldnt both report options do the same?

The 'Verbal Abuse' report option is for minor negativity (like telling someone they're "fucking trash", for example) and results in a 10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, 14 day gameplay ban, or permanent ban depending on how many punishments they've previously had. So if I had a 10 game chat restriction and you sent a valid report in on me, I'd get escalated to a 25 game chat restriction. After that, a 14 day gameplay ban and so on and so forth :p

The 'Hate Speech' report option is for zero-tolerance phrases (racism, homophobia, telling others to harm or kill themselves, and other derogatory language) and almost always results in a 14 day gameplay ban. It skips over the two chat restrictions 99.9% of the time but errors can still happen.