If you were toxic in postgame chat, that is most likely why you were recently banned.

Verbudders·Jul 8, 2016·5 votes·1,027 views

If you got banned and you think it was for no reason but you were actually toxic in postgame chat, that is why you were banned. The myth of postgame invulnerability isn't true.

I've seen enough evidence to convince me that this is the case (my own ban experience along with that of another guy I played with/against, with postgame toxicity being our only common ToS violation).

Regardless of how much people complain, it still doesn't make "Riot bans people unfairly" a true statement whenever a ban wave happens.

26 Comments

Mad King HadesJul 8, 20164 votes

I hate ggez. Does that count as toxic?

TokogawarufJul 8, 20162 votes

i made a thread about it just lately because i also fucking hate "gg ez"

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/oAU0XQ7T-is-gg-ez-an-actual-report-reason

The Answers reach from "clearly yes" to "holy shit your too easily triggered". I personally loved GaleWinUnleashed´s Answer.

wilsuport4coffeeJul 8, 20163 votes

How do you know that? there are no chat logs that come with pre nor post game lobby, and ive never heard of anyone punished for them. Hence why it is, indeed, a myth

VerbuddersJul 8, 20164 votes

I know for a fact that I was toxic in postgame chat (duh), along with another guy on here who was also banned without a reason given (I played with/against him a few games).

People can screenshot postgame chat and send it to Riot. It's not exactly difficult, and there are definitely people who play this game that care enough to do it.

digimonteamjacobJul 8, 20161 votes

Can you send a support ticket in to Riot and confirm that's the reason you were banned? Then post the results on here. That would be super helpful.

VerbuddersJul 8, 20161 votes

No. I'm convinced enough.

If you feel you were unfairly banned, then you can go ahead and send a ticket in, but I feel no need. You know better than anyone else if you were toxic in postgame chat. If you ACTUALLY weren't, then you have a valid reason to send in a ticket. I don't.

digimonteamjacobJul 8, 20161 votes

Oh so you weren't actually banned? It sounded like this was just a hunch you had because you were banned. I was just wondering if you could get the reason you were banned, and if it was because of post game chat then just edit the post and say it was confirmed. I'm not asking for anything that happened on a personal level.

VerbuddersJul 8, 20161 votes

I was banned. I just know I was also toxic in postgame and don't feel the need to send in a ticket.

digimonteamjacobJul 8, 20161 votes

Yea, but if you don't know the exact reason you were banned you can send in a ticket to find out why instead of just speculating. I can't send a ticket about it because I wasn't banned for it, so they would just tell me they can't release that information. But if you send the ticket they would have to tell you why they banned your account.

VerbuddersJul 8, 20161 votes

I just don't think it's necessary. I know for a fact that the common thread between 2 of the people who were banned, myself being 1, is that we were both toxic in postgame chats and I have no reason to believe Riot unfairly banned us. I also know that it was the only thing I've done on my accounts against ToS.

wilsuport4coffeeJul 8, 20163 votes

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I know for a fact that I was toxic in postgame chat (duh), along with another guy on here who was also banned without a reason given (I played with/against him a few games).

People can screenshot postgame chat and send it to Riot. It's not exactly difficult, and there are definitely people who play this game that care enough to do it.

I've sent in reports of screenshots of people calling us n**gers and they don't get banned. I send in support tickets every now and then about people who intentionally feed etc and nothing ever seems to happen to them. I get a copy/paste message of "theyll look into it but can't disclose any information" and they go on playing like nothing happened.

So I've moved onto to just making youtube videos out of these people I come across and blast their ass across youtube. Hopefully it, you know, actually becomes popular some day.

digimonteamjacobJul 8, 20161 votes

But if you report them wouldn't it be bad for your youtube channel. That doesn't sound like a very good business plan to me. Imagine going to the bank for a small loan of a million dollars and you tell them you are actively trying to destroy the material you need to use in order to make your product.

RIP english.

VerbuddersJul 8, 20161 votes

I would imagine "nothing ever happens" because Riot waits to do all the bans in a wave like they did this time. Check whenever a banwave happens.

SquarepusherJul 8, 20161 votes

"Wave" banning is only a strategy against hack programs and cheats, since its effective hackers can't change their software to adjust for it when all the bans happen together.

VerbuddersJul 9, 20161 votes

Ah, thought they did waves for everything

ModUlanopoJul 9, 20161 votes

I've sent in reports of screenshots of people calling us n**gers and they don't get banned.

They may have received a chat restriction. In the future, check their honor. If they were punished, it will be reset to zero.

wilsuport4coffeeJul 9, 20161 votes

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They may have received a chat restriction. In the future, check their honor. If they were punished, it will be reset to zero.

Excellent point, didn't even think about that

Kei143Jul 8, 20163 votes

Pre/Post game chats were always punishable.

I've seen enough of smites on this boards from Riot Tantrum and Lyte (from way back when) to know it happens.

ModUlanopoJul 9, 20162 votes

It has been confirmed that the pre- and post-game chats are monitored by Riot and can count towards triggering a punishment. They just don't show up in reform cards because they're kept on a separate server and it would be too much effort for too little benefit to connect them.

centuriation55Jul 9, 20161 votes

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It has been confirmed that the pre- and post-game chats are monitored by Riot and can count towards triggering a punishment. They just don't show up in reform cards because they're kept on a separate server and it would be too much effort for too little benefit to connect them.

Too little benefit? Riot stance is on punishment and reform. Do you know something we, as a community, do not know in regards to a stance change? Banning an account to JUST before permaban status with ZERO explanation or warning is awfully stupid. The fact that they cant send an email with a code that says "You have been banned due to pre-post game chatter. Please refer to the summoner code on proper behavior" I might understand that. Handing out two week bans to multiple members of the community on the same day with zero explanation just a few months AFTER this already happened once and the bans were overturned is a fucking joke.

ModUlanopoJul 9, 20162 votes

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Do you know something we, as a community, do not know in regards to a stance change?

It's been this way for years. This is nothing new.

centuriation55Jul 9, 20161 votes

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It's been this way for years. This is nothing new.

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-26-riot-dont-ban-your-players-reform-them As of 2013 their stance has been on REFORM and NOT punishment. Again, I ask you, since oyu are either wrong and misinformed, or something VERY recent has happened and their stance has gone from reform to straight punishment. So please, do explain.

ModUlanopoJul 9, 20161 votes

This isn't a binary thing. Reform and punishment are intertwined. In 2013, Riot changed the nature and scope of punishment, but they didn't do away with punishment. The account sanctions were changed so as to encourage more reform, but the underlying research into who is or is not going to reform remains true. That's why the punishment volcano was changed from 10-15 "strikes" to only four.

SquarepusherJul 9, 20161 votes

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It has been confirmed that the pre- and post-game chats are monitored by Riot and can count towards triggering a punishment. They just don't show up in reform cards because they're kept on a separate server and it would be too much effort for too little benefit to connect them.

lol no. Seperate server ffs?

ModUlanopoJul 9, 20161 votes

Yep. Pretty sure the first client was held together with bubble gum and baling wire.

ForeverLaxxJul 9, 20161 votes

Pre- and Post-game lobby chat have always been factored into reports where they're relevant. I don't know why people still insist that they aren't, but I've had more than my fair share of people announcing their intentions in Pre-game, acting innocent and "new" while in-game, then patting themselves on the back for successfully ruining another game and getting away with it. It catches up to them eventually, especially if you put in the report that they need to check Pre- and Post-game chat in order to confirm the actions. Screenshots are helpful, but I can't be bothered to go that far myself.