Was i toxic?

Underling Linda·4/15/2017, 10:15:40 AM·4 votes·516 views

Hello guys, i´m Plat IV and for this league,i think that players should KNOW what they are playing, i played yesterday a Viktor mid game, and i had a Lee jungle, who didnt gank me once (i didnt asked him so it was his choice if he ganks or not). But, when i recalled, he came mid with half hp, got killed by Ori and gave her doublebuffs, i didnt type anything in the chat, after another 8 minutes i recalled again, and Lee came again with half hp and Doublebuffs on mid when i wasnt there, i asked him why is he comming when im not there? In the moment he died again, and gave Ori doublebuffs again, i typed in chat: well, ty Lee -.- He didnt answer me why he was comming when i wanst there, just said STFU IDIOT. I reported him after the game for that, guys did i do something wrong? the first time he died i though it was a accident, like everyone makes mistakes, but twice the same thing? And then flaming me? This is Plat IV, i think people should know when to gank or what to do in Jungle, anyway, what do you think guys

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OnlyYouCanHearMe4/15/2017, 10:03:31 PM4 votes

If all you said was "why are you coming when I am not there?" and "well, ty Lee -.-" I would not consider that to be toxic. Was it a little sarcastic/passive aggressive, sure. But toxic, no. To be honest, I would have to commend you on not saying more than that after he gave your laner double buffs twice.

It was a bit of a derp on the Lee's part, especially to do it twice, and it seems reasonable to expect him to know better by that rank. While "STFU IDIOT" is a bit of a flame, it's fairly mild compared to some of what I read in chat logs here, and I don't know that I would have reported him if that was all he said, but that's just my own personal standard and everyone gets to pick their own "report threshold."

There is something else that really should be said though. It's a bit of a misconception that people have, that Riot doesn't allow players to express discontent with their teammates or opponents. This is not the case at all. League of Legends is a competitive game, and people make mistakes that can, and do, result in games being lost. Riot understands this; their company is filled with gamers, people who are on the Rift playing in these same matches, and facing these same frustrations that we see. Which is why Riot has never said that players are not allowed to express their frustration or displeasure with the actions of other players. They merely say in which ways it cannot be expressed. And for the most part, those ways are ways that would be avoided out of common courtesy. Players are not allowed to express themselves in ways that are "unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, sexually explicit, or racially, ethically, or otherwise objectionable" to quote the Terms of Use.

In your specific situation, you are perfectly allowed to say something like "Lee, can you please not feed Orianna buffs again? It's getting hard to lane against her." You would not be allowed to say "Lee, you f%%%%%g dumbass. Get the f%%k out of my lane and don't come back. Report this Lee for feeding and being RaceOfChoice/SexualPreferenceOfChoice." You're allowed to say "Lee, I'm backing for Item X, can you do raptors or scuttle and gank after that when I'm back?" You're not allowed to say "Lee, you blind piece of s%%t, no wonder you can't you see I'm not in the lane. Who boosted you to Plat? Can they come be my jungler?"

A bit over the top, but you get the idea. I think a lot of people have become confused, or even a bit paranoid, because they don't understand the rules that makeup the Code of Conduct. Or because they think Riot is simply looking to punish every player for the tiniest infraction, and hoping to ban accounts as soon as possible so they can make players make new ones and buy all new skins. That simply isn't the case. There are millions of players across the world, and only a small fraction of those ever see punishment. It might seem a bit skewed if you read this Board, but this is also a minuscule portion of the player base and nowhere near representative. You don't have to be afraid to interact with your team, and even to express displeasure, as long as you are not a jerk about it.

Best Darius KR5/10/2017, 4:03:52 PM2 votes

Honestly, when I'm playing I try to not ask any questions unless I really want an answer.

Take what you said as an example: "Why are you coming mid?" Because you are not really looking for an answer and are just asking a rhetoric question, this can be seen as passive aggressive from the other person's point of view. Let me assure you your teammate probably knew he made a mistake the moment he died in your lane, and you asking questions probably didn't improve his mood.

Honestly, I don't want to sound like an expert here because I'm really not. I'm just trying to use my common sense.

Oh, and no, I don't think you were toxic, just a liiiiiitle passive aggressive, which can sometimes tilt people.