Oh wow, is this even acceptable? Especially for someone who is a rioter?
Bruh...
Why did he just dig a grave for himself and make his life harder?
Bruh...
Why did he just dig a grave for himself and make his life harder?
So what?
Tyler1 has said a lot worse things to a lot better people. He's scum.
I'm sure the community will throw a fit about this then go into their next ranked game and tell their teammates to go slit their wrists or something, though.
Its Funny that they consider to unban someone who beat up his GF live on Twitch. His Anger issues go way beyond being Toxic, just watch his "everyone is a cheater at typeracer" clip vs reckful.
People who hate Tyler this blindly are just as retarded as people who spam freetyler1.
Yeah, disliking someone who has never given anyone a reason to like him sure is unreasonable.
I don't care if ya like him or not, but when people use things that are obviously fake/joking to make him look bad it's pretty stupid.
this beating girlfriend live on twitch is a fucking joke, if you actually think he would do that, you're nothing but a fucking moron
If there is evidence to support it then it must be considered. But if there is not then people should stop propagating a myth.
Where are you getting the beating up his girlfriend on twitch from?
If he had done that he 100% would not be allowed to stream anymore because Amazon is not going to risk losing millions of dollars because of some twat streaming on twitch.
Look how bad google went through it with youtube last year over almost nothing.
That being said I have seen 0 evidence that he has cleaned up his act other then he no longer int's... as often... from what I have seen from watching random streams he still chews out his team.
People have just become more accepting of his behavior now that he is more famous within the community.
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I don't see him beating her up in this video. He is yelling at her in some of the clips but from the comments it seems this is some stupid joke the two of them are doing for the stream maybe?
If he honestly treats her like that every day then it is an abusive relationship but it seems more just like a bad joke that is in poor taste. Although I am sure that if you put a few of these clips individually onto a news article without the context that he is acting "alpha" for the stream you could get a lot of investors afraid to advertise on twitch for no real reason.
This is CLEARLY a joke she's laughing along with him??? Are you alright?
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I mean riot probably will throw this under the bridge anyways.
So what?
Tyler1 has said a lot worse things to a lot better people. He's scum.
I'm sure the community will throw a fit about this then go into their next ranked game and tell their teammates to go slit their wrists or something, though.
So what? The whole point of Riot banning T1 was because he was toxic and not being a good representative for their game. So for them to portray this behavior them selves shows they are fucking hypocrites.
"Yeah cause someone else is an asshole I get to be an asshole"
Tyler1 isn't even that bad anymore.
The he punched me so I beat his teeth in high school like thinking is what I saw here when I read that post.
Why you have so many upvotes ill never know...
Being right does tend to have that effect.
Actively promoting and allowing for the breaking of the code of conduct by a Riot employee?...
Being right about tyler saying a lot of wrong things is one thing, giving someone permission to break the code of conduct held within a workplace and a community is another. Riot employees are on the clock as soon as they use one of their profiles that is linked to Riot games: Even if they aren't within working hours, they are certainly representing their company and are held responsible for any of the content that is produced from that account unless there has been a breach of security. And I'm pretty sure that Riot doesn't advocate for being toxic, so this isn't a "so what?" It might be to you, and it might be to several other people, but it definitely isn't to Riot games, and it definitely wont be to a lot of other people who actively try to make this community better.
So you can be right on the count of Tyler saying a lot of worse things, but you're wrong on every single other count.
EDIT: actually that last sentence is pretty accurate, not gonna lie
Cuz they upvote it [slayer-jinx-wink]
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So what?
Tyler1 has said a lot worse things to a lot better people. He's scum.
I'm sure the community will throw a fit about this then go into their next ranked game and tell their teammates to go slit their wrists or something, though.
There's a difference between the community talking shit about someone and the Lead game experience developer of riot games talking shit about someone. When you get put in a position of power such as that, you have to watch what you say even if other's around you say even worse things.
RITO:
[sg-ahri-3] "ggez" [sg-ahri-2] "he looks like a damn humunculous and honestly.. its fine he'll die from a coke overdose or testicular cancer from all the steroids.. then we'll be gucci"
i think rioters are humans too. so saying someone is a piece of shit is fine. but saying "i hope he dies" shouldnt be accepted by noone and about noone.
It's not acceptable, and Riot is taking care of the issue internally.
It's not acceptable, and Riot is taking care of the issue internally.
We both know he's not going to be fired x3.
Not every disciplinary action is firing the person.
Sometimes you need to lay down the law and tell them straight up "you can't do that." And then if they do it again, that's a sign of something deeper than ignorance.
Not every disciplinary action is firing the person.
Sometimes you need to lay down the law and tell them straight up "you can't do that." And then if they do it again, that's a sign of something deeper than ignorance.
Um, he's literally the guy that moderates toxicity and punishes people, and that's his behavior.
He's basically publicly announced that Riot can do while you cannot which pretty much means every punishment they've ever done is no longer valid.
Whatever reputation thaty Riot Games had towards toxicity is now officially gone. Keeping him on staff only escalates the issue since Tyler 1 can actually legally sue Riot Games because he did it on a company username.
Eh, that's. . . not the conclusion you should logically reach. Rather, he should be held to the same standards, but corruption in a functionally unrelated matter is different from the algorithms themselves being wrong. . . so this has little bearing on the validity of their mostly automated player behavior systems. There's no reason to suspect those banned were any less toxic-- quite the opposite, it might suggest that the filters weren't strict enough, and rampant toxicity was still allowed to exist.
The guy stated it was his own opinion and not Riot's. So I guess he thought it would be ok to speak his mind, although it still isn't ok to do that because you still somehow represent Riot Games.
By the way, for clarity I am not speaking on whether this is correct or incorrect because I do not want to get involved in the politics of this. I am just mentioning this detail so that people do not point at Riot Games for being at fault. Because they are not.
The guy stated it was his own opinion and not Riot's. So I guess he thought it would be ok to speak his mind, although it still isn't ok to do that because you still somehow represent Riot Games.
By the way, for clarity I am not speaking on whether this is correct or incorrect because I do not want to get involved in the politics of this. I am just mentioning this detail so that people do not point at Riot Games for being at fault. Because they are not.
In a professional setting, the "This is my own opinion and doesn't represent my employer's opinion" never flies. An employee represents their employer, and just by using the account to post something as bad as that, they kind of made it seem like it's okay for the community to wish death upon others in the community.
It definitely doesn't fly when they're using Riot ____ to post under it. I assume, when a Riot member posts on their employee account, they are speaking for the company, and not for themselves. I've been conditioned to thinking like that, which is why I have a personal email and facebook page for my friends and family, while I do my work-related business using my professional email.
It would have been much better if they never used their Riot account to post something that goes against everything Riot supposedly goes against. Based off of what I saw in the Reddit page, it seems like the community thinks that if it's okay for a Riot employee to be a complete jerk to someone in the community, it's okay for themselves to be a complete jerk to anyone in the community.
The guy stated it was his own opinion and not Riot's. So I guess he thought it would be ok to speak his mind, although it still isn't ok to do that because you still somehow represent Riot Games.
By the way, for clarity I am not speaking on whether this is correct or incorrect because I do not want to get involved in the politics of this. I am just mentioning this detail so that people do not point at Riot Games for being at fault. Because they are not.
If I'm in my military uniform and say, "This is my opinion but -insert racist/sexist/ anti-islamic-" Statements.
It doesn't matter that I said, "this is my opinion." I said it in military uniform and therefore I can be punished by civilians + military alike because I represented the military while doing so.
He wore the Riot Games tag while typing, therefore he was "in uniform" and representing the company. Which is exactly why Tyler1 could very easily sue them if he so chose. He'd also win.
The guy stated it was his own opinion and not Riot's. So I guess he thought it would be ok to speak his mind, although it still isn't ok to do that because you still somehow represent Riot Games.
By the way, for clarity I am not speaking on whether this is correct or incorrect because I do not want to get involved in the politics of this. I am just mentioning this detail so that people do not point at Riot Games for being at fault. Because they are not.
2 words: Vicarious Liability.
The fact is that they have made a representation through the Riot tag that he is a Riot employee acting on their behalf makes them, as a company, responsible for the consequences of his actions. A friend of mine works at an Apple store, and he mentioned something about not being allowed to post on their social media about certain things, and I'm guessing they don't want people to take an employee's word as their words.
The other saving grace they might have had, that this incident was not work related doesn't work either because he happened to be one of the player behaviour people (based on what I read) commenting on an issue about player behaviour, so it falls within his scope of duties.
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Keeping him on staff only escalates the issue since Tyler 1 can actually legally sue Riot Games because he did it on a company username.
You can't sue somebody for free speech.
Not saying what the rioter said is acceptable and its the company's decision what they want to do with him, but nothing he did externally is illegal and tyler couldn't file a law suit since he agreed to the games terms of service and broke them repeatedly, even if this wasn't the rioter that was banning him. T1's bans were justified, regardless of how hypocritical they are.
You can't sue somebody for free speech.
Not saying what the rioter said is acceptable and its the company's decision what they want to do with him, but nothing he did externally is illegal and tyler couldn't file a law suit since he agreed to the games terms of service and broke them repeatedly, even if this wasn't the rioter that was banning him. T1's bans were justified, regardless of how hypocritical they are.
Um, it's not free speech when you're wearing a company logo.
while wearing the company logo Riot Games itself is telling Tyler 1 that they wish he dies which is a defamation of character + potential threat of life.
Just like if you experience a harsh situation at something as simple as a store, and their employee tells you they wish you fucking died and proceed to shit out QQ's about you that employee is usually terminated and you recieve a plethora of "muh apologies, here's free shit." Do you know why? It's because you can blatantly sue the ever loving shit out of them and they're trying to get you to forget about that because giving you free meals/groceries is much cheaper than what would happen if they were sued.
This entire situation wouldn't have been as awful if he wasn't wearing RIOT GAMES on his fucking username. But, since he did he hung himself.
Such cases are usually about publicity as well as the effort that would have to go into a court case regardless of how likely it is to succeed. In your hypothetical case, for example, I don't see any reason why somebody would win a lawsuit over that, unless they somehow managed to turn what happened into discrimination.
In the specific case of Tyler, the only thing that I see as being potentially sue-worthy is the implication that Tyler does cocaine and steroids, which could be considered defamation.
I think they should give him a 14 day ban from the company no joke it does work they do that at my bank lol
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We both know he's not going to be fired x3.
He’s gone from Riot now, check his LinkedIn page.
No, it's not.
Doesn't matter if you hate him or not, that's still a bit mean
All i have to say is, that guy better not have anything to do with player behavior.
He's the Lead Experience Designer
Probably not the best position to be making such comments while he's banning people for saying "GGEZ" in his games.
I agree that he shouldn't be making such comments, but there' s no need to exaggerate. He's not banning people for saying "ggez", he's reporting them, which is his right as it is any other players'. In all my time on the forums I've never seen anybody banned purely for saying "ggez".
And yet he says things like this: https://image.ibb.co/gWoYDw/riot_sanjuro.png
Really makes you think.
That's kind of my point. That Rioter said more than enough for us to make a very solid point about his unacceptable behaviour. Exaggeration really just dilutes the argument.
Riot employees go through very specific training before they are allowed to post to any social platform while under their official Riot name (it doesn't have to have Riot in it i.e. Meddler, Reav3, and Kindlejack).
The name of the Rioter is blocked out, for good reason, but I highly doubt this was a lead Rioter. More than likely, this is someone very new to the company that has yet to go through that training, and they made a mistake by using their Riot name.
Will the guy keep his job? Who knows. I don't think Riot is that strict on their employees. Unfortunately, I doubt we'll hear anything on the matter, since Riot will most likely keep it an internal issue.
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Riot employees go through very specific training before they are allowed to post to any social platform while under their official Riot name (it doesn't have to have Riot in it i.e. Meddler, Reav3, and Kindlejack).
The name of the Rioter is blocked out, for good reason, but I highly doubt this was a lead Rioter. More than likely, this is someone very new to the company that has yet to go through that training, and they made a mistake by using their Riot name.
Will the guy keep his job? Who knows. I don't think Riot is that strict on their employees. Unfortunately, I doubt we'll hear anything on the matter, since Riot will most likely keep it an internal issue.
Not just a lead rioter, "Lead Game Experience Developer".
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Not just a lead rioter, "Lead Game Experience Developer".
So is that basically the guy in charge of monitoring toxicity??? If so, this is a disaster for Riot. The player behavior person just wished Cancer on someone in the most toxic way possible.
Good example for the community Riot... Of course this is not acceptable by a Riot Employee, no matter how much of an asshole Tyler1 is.