Is not being toxic really necessary to get high Gold/Plat?

GnarDominator·5/30/2019, 1:09:09 PM·5 votes·8,822 views

So i am just a silver 4 scrub (IK) and twice now i am playing norms and a high gold/plat player is on their team. One time, the player carried the other time the player didn't play well. However both times in game all they do is talk about how they have a higher rank than the other 9 people, send op.gg links, bully u about ur current rank and say they are so much better and are also extremely toxic to their teams. Before I thought higher elo players would have better mentality but now im just unsure (Literally all those shitty rank up things say dont be toxic). Is everyone in that elo just insecure about their skill in comparison so they go to lower elos and act all good and shit or how does that work?

PS: Im fine with my elo ik why im in it and idm

29 Comments

DuskDaUmbreon5/30/2019, 1:21:42 PM6 votes

Yes, it kinda is. Being a toxic dick makes your team less likely to play well and runs the risk of you getting banned. Can't climb when banned.

Ekitaih5/30/2019, 1:53:11 PM6 votes

Well. I’m not toxic and I’ve been steadily climbing. Being toxic typically distracts your team mates and has an impact on how they play.

Krissi21975/30/2019, 2:04:10 PM3 votes

I mean I'm Plat 4 and I'm not really toxic.

Karunamon5/30/2019, 5:43:37 PM2 votes

There's an old video I'd have to go dig up, but basically, players who are toxic objectively win fewer games, and drag down the win likelihood of everyone else they play with.

Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugXC7g3p0JU

Polaris I5/30/2019, 3:34:38 PM2 votes

Absolutely not, plat and D4 are the most toxic cesspools in the game

Last avatarname5/30/2019, 10:07:16 PM2 votes

See it like soccer. It probably helps a lot if you do not bite people on the field, but it does not 100 percent stop you from going pro. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Su%C3%A1rez#Controversies

A Latte Deaths5/30/2019, 7:01:13 PM2 votes

You'll have to put more effort in if you're toxic cause you'll tilt you teammates, but it's not necessary to be nice I guess? This is kind of a weird question lol

Sugar Momma5/30/2019, 5:42:00 PM1 votes

Being toxic means you’ll be a lower elo than your potential.

IronyAndSublime5/30/2019, 6:08:41 PM1 votes

Just put passive aggressive emoticons, satisfying honestly.

forist5/30/2019, 10:48:21 PM1 votes

Nope, its irrelevant. Climbing in elo only correlates with skill, not behavior.

Your Neighbour5/31/2019, 2:48:29 AM1 votes

Pushing through the game when your team is behind, then you maybe 10% chance of winning

Quitting the game or FF15 because you are a raging baby= 0% chance of winning

Roulette advantage to the house is just 2.69%, and casinos aren't going out of business anytime soon. The attitude is the difference. I am sure you would have at least one game where the odds of winning just seem improbable, and the enemy just tower dive, throws and your team magically comes back to win the game. I have that weekly, you just need to convince them to keep their head screwed on and not lose bladder control (which people do every game in silver and below)

JackMcSnipeyz5/31/2019, 3:05:08 AM1 votes

FrozenFrostFyre5/31/2019, 12:31:05 PM1 votes

There is a bluntness about mistakes in higher elo, if you fuck the team fight up everyone will say you did, but just play it differently next time and no hard feeling. If you were dived toplane all game people usually won't bitch about your score, but when I play in lower elos on flex or a smurf I notice these things right away. In lower elo if you point out sometimes mistake they will soft int you for the rest of the game ksing stealing cs and never helping when you get dove on. Regardless of toxicity levels, I'm 1000% sure lower elo players can't take flame as much or recognize their own mistakes, if you want to climb getting a better mental or thicker skin is a requirement.

R107 Games5/30/2019, 1:14:35 PM1 votes

Toxicity(referring to verbal) has virtually no impact on your ranked climb. It's only when you're spamming chat which distracts yourself as well as your team from the game, and you're potentially typing more than playing.

I got to plat simply becuase of my skill, not what i typed in chat. Hell i would've aimed for diamond or even masters if my Wi-Fi didn't occasionally lag

Ur nothin6/1/2019, 3:51:33 AM1 votes

It's absolutely required to not be toxic to get higher elo, for a couple of reasons.

toxicity loses games that would be easy wins otherwise.
it's hard to get to a high elo when you get banned along the way for being toxic.
if you waste time being toxic all you're doing is costing yourself and your team time resulting in major game loses.

Oh and on a side note if you're playing against players who talk trash just mute them, but more importantly if they're playing against you in ranked then they aren't "plat/gold" because true plat and gold players don't play against silver elo players.

GatekeeperTDS5/30/2019, 1:56:26 PM1 votes

Gold is what a lot of people view as "good" because it's the point where statistically, you've broken away from a majority of the other players in the game. Is gold still something like the top 35%, or has that changed since the ranks were tweaked this season? Either way, I'm gold, and there's a lot I don't know and a lot I can improve. Am I technically "better" than silver players by nature of my rank? Yes. Are there probably many, many silver players who can do certain things better than me? Absolutely.

Rank shaming is for very insecure people. You are definitely going to climb if you focus on yourself, try to have fun, and accept that you really only need something like a 52%-55% win ratio to consistently climb. Not every game is going to be winnable, but the people who flame their teammates because of their rank are very shortsighted and will stagnate in rank.

Sp4xx5/30/2019, 3:12:36 PM1 votes

To be honest, most high elo player I know (who aren't boosted) don't have that attitude. Especially in normals. I don't see the point in normals... normals are for fun, practicing stuff and no one's really tryharding. The person who did that was either boosted and just wanted to brag. The were insecure and had ego issues. Honestly people who do that are immature kids (yes there are 30 years old people with 12 years old brain, they are still kids and immature regardless of their physical age).

I might taunt people (never on my team, just on the enemy team) for making a stupid play in rank so they tilt and make more mistakes thus giving me a free lane (but I never use inappropriate language). I also usually tell my team (not in all chat) that I'm only doing it so the enemy tilts.

I think most people will have a much easier time climbing by not being toxic especially towards their teamate. If someone's feeding, raging at that person is not gonna help at all. If anything, it makes it worse.

FeederIee5/30/2019, 3:34:58 PM1 votes

Being toxic gets you there faster !

Cathanne5/30/2019, 3:57:04 PM1 votes

Passive aggressive insults and degrading teammates = very little impact on climbing, not likely to ever really be punished.

Arguing and bickering = distracts from games, tilts team, very likely to be punished.

Jeanne fan club5/30/2019, 4:22:21 PM1 votes

The only defining feature of plat is toxicity

JuiceBoxP5/30/2019, 5:05:27 PM1 votes

try not to be toxic ever... you'll just have more fun overall out of the game.